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Old 02-12-2021, 08:22 PM
Delorso Delorso is offline
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Default Rogers swivo mounts: How much is too much?

I've seen (but never heard) Rogers swivo-era kits with a snare, tom and ride cymbal all mounted on the bass drum. I've also seen Rogers bass drums with a tom (or two), a ride and a full size crash mounted on them. Personally, I love the look of these setups, and I imagine it never hurts to have fewer stands to lug around, if you're gigging.
But again, I actually haven't heard any Rogers kits with more than a single tom and cymbal mounted on the bass drum, so I'm curious how much you all think is too much for the bass drum to take before it starts affecting the sound in a meaningful way. I realize this is completely subjective, but maybe there's something relatively close to a consensus out there?
My guess would be, (simply because you see far more of these set ups than others), anything beyond a tom and a cymbal, (or two toms and no cymbal), starts to get dicey, but that's admittedly an uneducated guess.

Another question: For those of you who mount a cymbal on the floor tom using a knobby mount, do you notice if it affects the sound of the floor tom?
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Old 02-13-2021, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: Rogers swivo mounts: How much is too much?

Restored a setup with the snare, single tom, and cymbal hanging off the bass drum a couple of years ago. Ended up sell it to a well known collector. He loved to setup and sound.

Top Hat tom mount configuration was designed for a cymbal above the twin toms.

Rogers designers knew what they were doing. End of that story here.

And I have set up cymbal mount on 16 and 18 floor tom on personal restorations. 16" crash with no issues. Not sure if you would have an issue with a 22-24 ride cymbal.
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Old 02-13-2021, 09:50 AM
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Default Re: Rogers swivo mounts: How much is too much?

I ordered my new Rogers drum set in 1961 with the 8x12 tom, 22" ride cymbal, and matching 5x14 wood shell snare drum all mounted on the 14x20 bass drum. I loved the freedom of not dealing with a snare drum stand. Back in those days, most of us tensioned our drums so that they sounded good to us. For those of us playing rock music, our biggest concern was that our unamplified drums would be loud enough to be heard over the guitars and bass guitar. If you look hard, you can see the Swivomatic mount for the snare drum peeking out from behind (actually in front of) the tom mount. My most recent drum set acquisition is a 1966 Top Hat configuration with a cymbal mount above the two 8x12 mounted toms on the 14x20 bass drum and a ride cymbal on a knobby mount on the 16x16 floor tom. I don't notice any compromise in sound. I will admit to giving serious thought to mounting the matching snare drum on the bass drum. If this was properly done, who other than me and people I told about it, would know that this was not done at the Rogers drum factory? Long before I was born drummers were mounting all sorts of toms, cymbals, and other percussion devices on their bass drums or on racks attached to the bass drum.
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Old 02-13-2021, 10:39 AM
idrum4fun idrum4fun is offline
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Hi Delorso!

I feel that both amosguy and leedybdp have given excellent answers to your question!

While having multiple Swivo mounts to eliminate various other stands certainly wasn't the norm, it did prove that Rogers knew what they were doing and the addition of these mounts didn't hinder the great Rogers sound for those drummers that needed this solution.

On a separate note, when I read "how much is too much?" I honestly thought this topic would be about the crazy prices many sellers are asking for Swivo mounts!!
I'm sure many of you have seen some of these prices, scratch your heads and think "seriously? This seller is nuts!!"

-Mark
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Old 02-13-2021, 11:01 AM
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Yep. It seems that when you need a "widget" for your drums, they are scarce and the prices are astronomical. But, when you don't need them, those "widgets" are plentiful at low prices. I suppose that this is just verification of supply side economics. Few of us are insightful enough to gobble them up when we don't need them lest we be considered to be hoarders.
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Old 02-13-2021, 06:23 PM
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Default Re: Rogers swivo mounts: How much is too much?

This is all very informative, thanks! It definitely seems like, due to such great siwvo hardware design, snares, toms, cymbals, etc, mounted on the bass drum wouldn't suffer much more placement limitations than if they were mounted on floor stands as well. To be honest, I'm surprised every non-roadie-having drummer wasn't clamoring for these kinds of set ups when they came on the scene!

And yeah, the title of this thread does suggest a different discussion, doesn't it?
The prices for these mounts absolutely do seem insane. That's the market, I guess. I only hope these people aren't tearing apart functioning, intact kits to sell them.
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