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Old 04-27-2012, 05:00 PM
bfulton bfulton is offline
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Default Rogers Swiv-o-matic hi hat restore??

Anyone ever worked on the 4402 Rogers Swiv-o-matic hi hat? Specifically, is there a way to remove the cross piece that goes through the bottom rod (and the footboard arms attaches to it)?
I couldn't see anything - may be a press fit... but I sure as hell ain't going to start banging on it...the threaded extensions look pretty fragile!
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Old 05-05-2012, 06:12 PM
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I've done this twice already! The first time was difficult, because I couldn't figure out how that cross bar was held in!

Remove both nuts on each end of the bar. This machined bar is held in by an allen set screw. You'll see a large hole in the tube, very close to this bar. Just hold the bar down to hole by pushing down on the rod that extends from the opening where the top rod would thread into it and use an allen wrench to unlock and remove the screw. The biggest issue is that oily dirty grime builds up over the years and it's difficult to know that there is a set screw in there! I don't recall the size allen wrench, but it might be 1/8" or smaller. Most likely smaller than 1/8". Once the set screw is removed, the bar can be pushed from side to side, making it easier to remove each linkage arm. Now the bar can be pushed out.

Once you see how it works, you'll really get the hang of it and be an expert in no time!!

Hope this helps.
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Old 05-05-2012, 08:59 PM
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Default Re: Rogers Swiv-o-matic hi hat restore??

It helps a lot - and thank you for the info!
I have since been able to remove it -- other than not knowing what I was doing, there was a problem in that the part the t-bar fits through was in backward, so the set crew never showed up! I'm thinking "that hole HAS to be there for some reason." I was able to get a vice grip on it and turn it, which loosened it up.... and then it just came out.
It seems obvious in retrospect that if it wasn't lined up with the hole, it hadn't been snugged down.
Anyway - got it apart, figured out the adjusting system after plenty of !! moments. These things are really well designed and made. Like some Slingerland stuff I've worked on.
The reward: I love the way it feels with the single footboard. Very natural feeling.
Thanks very much for the guidance -- great group on this forum!
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:57 AM
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Glad you were able to figure it out! Wow, turned 180 degrees! And, yes, these are great hi hat stands. I have the split footboard version and love it!
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Old 05-06-2012, 01:38 PM
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Yep -- I was glad to figure it out. I just reworked another last night. Not as nice cosmetically, but jeez! these are well designed, and I dig the style.

Mine is a one piece footboard, which really feels perfect to me. I often play heel down in small rooms, and the action feels very natural.

Thanks again!
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Old 05-31-2021, 09:42 PM
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Default Re: Rogers Swiv-o-matic hi hat restore??

Thanks so much! The beauty of vintage drums.....your first response was 2007 and here we are in 2021 and it's still a true solution.
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Old 06-01-2021, 12:02 AM
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Thanks so much! The beauty of vintage drums.....your first response was 2007 and here we are in 2021 and it's still a true solution.
Hi Dan!

Glad you were able to find this post from so long ago...and glad it's still relevant for you!

-Mark
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