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Old 10-22-2019, 10:19 PM
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Corporate GREED plain and simple.
Not for nothing, I just gave you an article that states mylar prices are going through the roof because of raw material issues, and you say it's simply "corporate greed". C'mon, you got to do better than that...
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Old 10-24-2019, 11:40 AM
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Not for nothing, I just gave you an article that states mylar prices are going through the roof because of raw material issues, and you say it's simply "corporate greed". C'mon, you got to do better than that...
And the Mylar suppliers are not exhibiting corporate greed? Wake up!
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Old 10-24-2019, 12:29 PM
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And the Mylar suppliers are not exhibiting corporate greed? Wake up!
Your right, I guess if drumheads aren't still $5.99, it has to be corporate greed...Gotcha!
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Old 10-24-2019, 01:33 PM
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Your right, I guess if drumheads aren't still $5.99, it has to be corporate greed...Gotcha!
It is your right to be a corporate apologist. .

When the input costs of production are not significantly increasing (look at hydrocarbon pricing) then radical price increases in consumer products are tantamount to corporate greed. Look at the US pharmaceutical industry for a good example.

We are being raped by US based drum head manufacturers. Time to switch to far Eastern products for me. Vote with your money.
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Old 10-24-2019, 03:12 PM
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When the input costs of production are not significantly increasing (look at hydrocarbon pricing) then radical price increases in consumer products are tantamount to corporate greed.
This is way too simplistic view of the energy sector and the final costs related to products. The price per barrel of oil can actually decrease while prices of finished products increase due to a host of other costs/issues your skimming past and simply attributing to corporate greed. Some of the costs may include increases in: environmental costs; permitting; taxes; labor prices; increased competition for the petrochemical portion of barrel (the stuff that makes plastics); inflation (see attached image), etc.. I won't do all your thinking here.

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... It is your right to be a corporate apologist. .....

We are being raped by US based drum head manufacturers. Time to switch to far Eastern products for me. Vote with your money.
Companies in this sector work on fairly standard gross/profit margins (which, BTW, isn't very high) and therefore you shouldn't conflate the pharmaceutical sector with this one! So the reality is you're not being "raped by US based drum head manufacturers." Running to China with your money is not the best long-term economic solution either and I'll choose to skip the political debate on that one.

If you want to "vote with your money," why don't you do something more practical like getting a "Group Buy" together and work with a retailer to get a more significant discount on the products you want???
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Old 10-24-2019, 06:41 PM
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This is way too simplistic view of the energy sector and the final costs related to products. The price per barrel of oil can actually decrease while prices of finished products increase due to a host of other costs/issues your skimming past and simply attributing to corporate greed. Some of the costs may include increases in: environmental costs; permitting; taxes; labor prices; increased competition for the petrochemical portion of barrel (the stuff that makes plastics); inflation (see attached image), etc.. I won't do all your thinking here.



Companies in this sector work on fairly standard gross/profit margins (which, BTW, isn't very high) and therefore you shouldn't conflate the pharmaceutical sector with this one! So the reality is you're not being "raped by US based drum head manufacturers." Running to China with your money is not the best long-term economic solution either and I'll choose to skip the political debate on that one.

If you want to "vote with your money," why don't you do something more practical like getting a "Group Buy" together and work with a retailer to get a more significant discount on the products you want???
Tried that. No significant price relief offered. I hope the USA drumhead manufacturers are hit with significant overseas competition. Tama and Pearl fixed the high prices of Rogers and Slingerland. Maybe the foreign suppliers will similarly fix the Remo and Evans pricing problem.
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Old 10-24-2019, 07:44 PM
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Tried that. No significant price relief offered. I hope the USA drumhead manufacturers are hit with significant overseas competition. Tama and Pearl fixed the high prices of Rogers and Slingerland. Maybe the foreign suppliers will similarly fix the Remo and Evans pricing problem.
Yes, rooting for China so you can save 2 or 3 bucks on a drumhead. That a boy!
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Old 10-24-2019, 10:39 PM
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We are being raped by US based drum head manufacturers. Time to switch to far Eastern products for me. Vote with your money.

Call me crazy, but there's gotta be a better word to describe that...


As far as the actual manufacturers. Head prices have definitely gone up by a few dollars, but the quality of Evans and Remo is much higher than cheaper heads.
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Old 10-24-2019, 11:11 PM
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Tried that. No significant price relief offered. I hope the USA drumhead manufacturers are hit with significant overseas competition. Tama and Pearl fixed the high prices of Rogers and Slingerland. Maybe the foreign suppliers will similarly fix the Remo and Evans pricing problem.
Just out of curiosity, what price do you think you should be paying for your drum heads?
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Old 10-25-2019, 02:45 AM
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Thanks for the "Heads Up"..... You can actually (at least), double these aforementioned prices to buy a drumhead in OZ... and we are paying an average 25 BUCKS a pair for Vic Firth sticks,,,, Corporate greed at all levels reigns supreme down here...


Cheers
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