Old 01-30-2014, 11:13 PM
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Default Picked Up A Couple Marching Snares Tonight
Slingerland Parade King
10x14 Silver Sparkle 8 Center Lug, Football Black and Silver Badge (S/N - 28041)

Ludwig Classic Parade
10x14 WMP 16 lug, Blue Transition Badge (Date Stamp - Sept. 2, 1960), 3-ply mahogany/poplar/mahogany.

The Ludwig is really sun faded from being displayed in a window, it even had the original heads and snares. There is some rust on the throw-off and corrosion on the inside screws, but the rest is pretty good. It has COB hoops, a WFL P-83 strainer, a WFL butt plate and the blue ink Ludwig transition badge.

The Slingerland is in very good shape and the wrap is very bright and crisp. It has COS hoops and a Zoomatic strainer. There are two extra holes on the side where a leg rest was installed.

I have some ideas to convert them to more usable 5 1/2-inch and 6 1/2-inch by 14-inch snare drums. A 5.5x14 Hollywood Ace for the Slingerland and a 6.5x14 School Festival for the Ludwig. Since the Ludwig wrap is so faded, I'm going do a re-wrap.

-Tim
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Old 01-31-2014, 12:33 PM
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Hey Tim - Talk to Bill (billnvick) he does those conversions all the time. He did one for me last year.



I'm sure he'll have a bunch of helpful tips he learned from doing so many of these cut-down jobs on parade shells. I turned the shell that Bill did for me into a wood super-sensitive! Looking forward to seeing what you concoct!

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Old 01-31-2014, 01:21 PM
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Thanks, John.

I've done two conversions, so far. Both with pointers from Bill (billnvick)
Jazzfest
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=35983

School Festival (6.5x15)
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=37844
I just have to remember "measure twice and cut once".

Other than removing those re-rings, it should be just a matter of finding the proper shell depth that avoids any holes and evenly spaces the lugs. I'm concerned with the corrosion on Ludwig lug screws. It'll be a miracle, if I don't snap off or mess up the heads. Not sure what I can use to help this process, since the shell is bare wood.

The Slingerland will stay silver sparkle, but the wrap on the Ludwig really is too faded. I might replace it with some of Sam's WMP that's on sale.

Before I dive into these, I need to finish a marching snare to FT conversion for a friend and the Rogers Comet kit. My son said he'd like to use it for this years HS Jazz Band performances. Maybe he needs to start polishing some lugs!

-Tim

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Old 01-31-2014, 01:30 PM
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> Maybe he needs to start polishing some lugs!

It's never too soon to expose them to the 'real-world'! Hand him a rag, a bunch of parts and some Mother's polish, then send him out to the spud-pile to develop some character.

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Old 01-31-2014, 01:30 PM
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Hey Tim,
Good to see you've found these babies and are still into the conversions!
I just completed a Ludwig 6-ply cutdown/conversion. I've wrapped it in the tangerine to match the set I just did, but had to order two new hoops as the ones I had just weren't good enough to use with a newly rewrapped shell!
I'll post pics tomorrow when I get it all put back together, as according to tracking I'll get the hoops tomorrow (thanks to the UPS/USPS shipping deal!).

And John... If you don't mind, could I post pics of your drum on my facebook page? (Redrums - Ks).
Thanks,
Bill
Old 01-31-2014, 01:37 PM
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Bill - You most certainly have my permission to post photos to your page! You made the shell for me, you have as much 'bragging rights' to that drum as I do!

In case you haven't noticed, I'm one of your biggest boosters around here! I'm very happy with the job you did for me and I'd be happy to recommend you to any prospective clients.

Looking forward to seeing the drums you guys produce from those paraders! I love seeing those drums converted and re-tasked as kit drums. They get a shot at a second life as a useful instrument. Can't find that aged mahogany and maple any other way. Be a shame to see all that old lumber collecting dust, or ending up in a trash pile. You guys are saving/reviving valuable vintage drums! Good on you both.

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Old 01-31-2014, 01:51 PM
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John,
Yes, I've noticed, and it is appreciated!
Your "wooden super-sensitive" as well as Slingerlynn's "cigar band snare" have actually been to of the "proudest" projects I've been a part of.
Slingerlynn emailed me several pictures of his drum, but I've not gotten them up on my page yet.
BTW -- I'm sending you a PM, too.
Thanks again,
Bill
Old 01-31-2014, 02:48 PM
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Tim, nice score on the marching drums, that will be fun for you, so keep us posted as usual.

John, I dig the wood ss and remember you doing it.

Bill, I still have the shell you gave me as a gift along with the other shells I bought from you last summer. So I will try my hand at cutting one down as well. John gave me a nice old WFL 3-ply shell to convert into a jazz fest when I did his mahogany clubbies. Now I cant decide now which snare shell to use with the kit Im working on. Oh the decisions to make!
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Old 01-31-2014, 04:15 PM
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Bill - I pm'd you a bunch of photos of the drum from prep through finished product. Pick and choose whichever ones you want to use.

Jeff - With all those great shells to choose from, you have 'an embarrassment of riches!' Shouldn't be hard to narrow down the candidates. One of them will just speak to you.

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Old 01-31-2014, 05:24 PM
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Jeff - With all those great shells to choose from, you have 'an embarrassment of riches!' Shouldn't be hard to narrow down the candidates. One of them will just speak to you.
Just do what John Good (DW) does. Hold each shell with one finger, give it rap and listen for one that sings. Not sure that this would really make much of a difference, but it can add to the coolness of the back story.

-Tim
 

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