I actually thought of using the brick as one of my investigative tools earlier in the post. I went with the "measure the wife" move and the angle of the knee as brick just comes in too wide of an array of shapes and sizes. If it was good ol' cement block now that would be easy............

I also thought about doing that, but wasn't sure what I should use for a standard brick size.

I remembered this video from Cletus a little while back. At 1:13 it pretty much says what Mcjnic has stated.

http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=10577

have a wonderful evening

drumhack

Now that :rolleyes: is funny..... Laughing H

Ill have to remember that... Excited

Hi,

Here is another pic from the same day. Dave Tough alone.

I tried to use it and the door frame (calculating with the contemporary average height of 80") to get a grid that might lead to the size of the cymbals. I think I failed.

Tough is often described as tiny. I am a poor judge when comparing stature to drums. To me, pictures of Tough at a kit suggest a guy around 5' 7-8". When I lay the picture on an excel sheet and use the grid to get some sort of scale, Tough comes out shorter.

Tough seems to be 2/3 of the height of the door (nominally 80"). (I pasted the pic onto an Excel sheet, and the heights of door and Tough do seem to be in a 2/3 ratio.). Which puts Tough closer to 53" (yikes). Using the same excel grid, and adding a couple of blocks to make up for the lean, the cymbals wind up nearly 28", more than half Tough's (nominal) height.

It's funny when you look at his standard set up, Tough used a 28" bass apparently, but his cymbals were 16" and smaller in the Stars Set Up book.

Too many variables to mix with my dodgy skills, but the picture is nice.

Patrick

I tend to like your 28" idea better than my lame attempt at using bricks, but it was fun? Look at the cups/bells of the cymbals, they would be tiny if those are 24" cymbals. The ratio matches better.

How long is a hammer handle?

Is the building still there? Someone go measure those bricks. :confused:

But I'm sure those bells were tiny. In 1940 that's how they made. Here's a few examples from the same period:

[img]http://photos.imageevent.com/drumaholic/kerope/18_A_1940.jpg[/img]

[color=blue]17-1/2"[/color]

[img]http://photos.imageevent.com/drumaholic/kerope/P1010253.jpg[/img]

[color=blue]20-1/4"[/color]

I'm going to vote 26" because they look like the size of my kick.

Hi,

In my fool's errand re using Dave Tough as a yardstick, I found this delightful quote from Mezz Mezzrow:

Dave Tough was my boy. He was a little bit of a guy, no chubbier than a dime and lean as hard times, with a mop of dark hair, high cheekbones and a nose ground fine as a razor blade and he popped with spirit till he couldn’t sit still. It always hit me to see that keyed-up peanut crawl behind the drums, looking like a mouse huddled behind an elephant, and cut loose with the solid rhythms he had picked up from the great colored drummers.

Page 213 Drummin' men: the heartbeat of jazz : the swing years

By Burt Korall, Mel Tormé

Patrick

Interesting. So maybe these could be 24 inchers.

Whatever size these were I'd really like to know where they are now.