Hey guys.
I have this cymbal and I'm not really sure what it is. I think I need schooled on the differences between a china, a swish, a pang, etc.
I bought this from an older gentlemen that said he bought it new but could not recall when or what labeling was on it.
It is an 18" Zildjian with 6 rivets. I forgot to ask if the rivets were original. It weighs 1,480 grams.
The stamp is difficult to see with the patina.
Can anyone give me a better idea as to the model and year? Thanks!
Forgot a pic of the stamp.
In my day, that one was called a "Swish."
I had one just like it and when I bought it used,
it was called a swish.
I believe what distinguishes it as a swish are the upward lift at edge
with the addition of the rivets.
Without rivets, I believe it becomes a "Pang."
Looks cool.
It has what we call a 70s stamp. The upturned edge means Swish.
Here is a pictorial summary of the shape differences from Pinksterboer:
[img]http://black.net.nz/avedis/images/swish-vs-pang.png[/img]
And a glossary at the link below:
http://black.net.nz/cym2014/z-1976-cymtypes.jpg
The Zildjian china has a more squared off bell not the same bell as an ordinary cymbal.
Thank you for the information gentlemen. The pictorial summary is helpful.
I say it's a Swish.
In addition to a more gradual upturned edge, a Pang also has a different sound than a Swish. A Pang has a much more subtle and softer attack than a Swish or China. It's almost as if you are hitting the Pang with a soft timpani mallet rather than a drumstick. I've owned an 18" and a 20" Pang in the past, and they both had the very soft, subtle, "mallet" type attack.
Swish.
Not sure when this happened, but factory rivets installed in a Swish made it a "Swish Knocker" as I recall. Factory (Swish Knocker) or aftermarket (Swish) rivets sort of defined this as I recall.
But it has the round bell, not the geometric one of the Pang model (which could have rivets from the factory as an option, as all Zildjian cymbals do, but no special names in those cases) so it's a Swish, or Swish Knocker.
