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Yamaha Project - Soooo Dirty

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This is possibly the grubbiest kit I've ever bought (and I've bought a few). The bass drum damping was an old pillow and another one that had gone hard and appeared to have blood stains. I didn't open it up as I expected to find a dead, mummified kitten.

I don't know the model name for this one. I suspect it's from the end of the Y badge era. 22/12/13/16 and a 14x5 steel snare. The snare is similar to another I have but with a strainer I have never seen before. It is currently held together with a nail and doesn't work. And tbo I'm not sure how it's supposed to work.

As filthy as it is there doesn't seem to be any moisture damage and the chrome wrap looks like it'll clean up okay. The chrome is poor to say the least.

It really could do with a hose off but I'll put on gloves and mask and clean carefully.

If anyone knows the model and has a photo of a working strainer it'd be appreciated.

Andrew

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Posted on 6 years ago
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I`m sure they will clean up okay...Just some extra elbow grease needed is all...

Please post after pics...

Cheers

1976 Ludwig Mach 4 Thermogloss 26-18-14-14sn
1978 Ludwig Stainless 22-22-18-16-14-13-12 c/w 6-8-10-12-13-14-15-16-18-20-22-24 concert toms
1975 Sonor Phonic Centennials Metallic Pewter 22-16-13-12-14sn (D506)
1971 Ludwig Classic Bowling Ball OBP 22-16-14-13
1960's Stewart Peacock Pearl 20-16-12-14sn
1980`s Ludwig Coliseum Piano Black 8x14 snare
1973 Rogers Superten 5x14 & 6.5x14 COS snares
1970`s John Grey Capri Aquamarine Sparkle 5x14 snare
1941 Ludwig & Ludwig Super 8x14 snare
Posted on 6 years ago
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Looks to be a D-22 kit.

They sound GOOD... They will be worth the effort to clean up.

That snare throw is different than mine, so I'm guessing this was a later set, just before the 9000 series was released.

Cobalt Blue Yamaha Recording Custom 20b-22b-8-10-12-13-15-16f-18f
Red Ripple '70's Yamaha D-20 20b-12-14f
Piano Black Yamaha Recording Custom Be-Bop kit 18b-10-14f
Snares:
Yamaha COS SDM5; Yamaha Cobalt Blue RC 5-1/2x14; Gretsch round badge WMP; 1972 Ludwig Acrolite; 1978 Ludwig Super Sensitive; Cobalt Blue one-off Montineri; Yamaha Musashi 6.5X13 Oak; cheap 3.5X13 brass piccolo
Posted on 6 years ago
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I love the mummified kitten line! There was a pillow inside the last vintage kit I bought that looked like it was used as a civil war bandage. How long can bed bugs live sealed in a bass drum anyway?

Stop stringing and tuning your instrument, make music now.
-fortune cookie

Vintage Drums:
1970ish Ludwig Standard Avocado Strata downbeat
1970ish Star Acrylic 22,12,13,16
1950’s Gretsch tympani 26.5
19?? Sonor roto-tympani 13x12
70’s Ludwig Standard alum 14x5 snare
90’s Arbiter Adv. Tuning 12x5 snare
90’s Ludwig blackrolite 14x5 snare

Modern Drums:
Erie Drums 1-ply sycamore shell kit 18,10,13
Erie 1-ply maple 14x5 snare
Tama S.L.P. Acrylic 14x6.5 snare
Posted on 6 years ago
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Thanks Jim, I've had numerous early Yamaha sets but I think you're right that this one is a bit later. I found this post which is a kit of exactly the same vintage right down to the snare strainer http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=52158 . Can't find any others though

Mr Toast - I don't know the answer to that but after I'd opened up the bass drum I started coughing and didn't stop for the rest of the day. I'll wear a mask before opening the others:eek:

Andrew

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Posted on 6 years ago
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I saw your post in the other thread. I don’t believe these are Luan ply shells- all birch. Yours have the angled interior ply seam, right? They did that with every ply so they can slide against each other to make a tight and void-free shell.

Really brilliant design and they continue it today. It wasn’t until I got deep into wood working with guitar making and pool cue making that I fully understood the engineering going on there. The ad hype is really useless but I think they wanted to keep the technology close to the chest as long as possible. These shells will be round long after you and I are gone. They tune up easily and sing out. They compare favorably to Jasper shell Gretsch with similar heads and Tuning. Maybe a touch brighter but certainly capable of a great jazzy sound.

Cobalt Blue Yamaha Recording Custom 20b-22b-8-10-12-13-15-16f-18f
Red Ripple '70's Yamaha D-20 20b-12-14f
Piano Black Yamaha Recording Custom Be-Bop kit 18b-10-14f
Snares:
Yamaha COS SDM5; Yamaha Cobalt Blue RC 5-1/2x14; Gretsch round badge WMP; 1972 Ludwig Acrolite; 1978 Ludwig Super Sensitive; Cobalt Blue one-off Montineri; Yamaha Musashi 6.5X13 Oak; cheap 3.5X13 brass piccolo
Posted on 6 years ago
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Jim, you could be right about the plies being birch, I'm not good enough with wood to discern that. Yes it will have the angled seams.

I have a 20/12/14 kit from the early 70s with the steel snare and they are pretty hard to beat. I maintain the quality is up there with the very best of what was being produced at the time.

This set will clean up well but man, there's a lot of rust on these hoops

Andrew

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Posted on 6 years ago
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Have Precision Drum make up new wood hoops for you. They can do the inlay groove the original width for you too. They made hoops for my D-20 and they did an excellent job (while I waited!)

Cobalt Blue Yamaha Recording Custom 20b-22b-8-10-12-13-15-16f-18f
Red Ripple '70's Yamaha D-20 20b-12-14f
Piano Black Yamaha Recording Custom Be-Bop kit 18b-10-14f
Snares:
Yamaha COS SDM5; Yamaha Cobalt Blue RC 5-1/2x14; Gretsch round badge WMP; 1972 Ludwig Acrolite; 1978 Ludwig Super Sensitive; Cobalt Blue one-off Montineri; Yamaha Musashi 6.5X13 Oak; cheap 3.5X13 brass piccolo
Posted on 6 years ago
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LOL ! Check out this coincidence ! Up for sale on my local classifieds.

Missing the floor tom..Where do all these vintage MIJ floor toms disappear to ???

Laughing H

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-batterie-percussion/longueuil-rive-sud/drum-yamaha-vintage/1337594960?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

Posted on 6 years ago
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From human71

LOL ! Check out this coincidence ! Up for sale on my local classifieds. Missing the floor tom..Where do all these vintage MIJ floor toms disappear to ???Laughing Hhttps://www.kijiji.ca/v-batterie-percussion/longueuil-rive-sud/drum-yamaha-vintage/1337594960?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

Well there you go! I could not find one the same earlier in the week. This looks to be a single mounted tom set up. I wish the snare was with it as I reckon I'll be needing some reference to help get the throw off complete and working on mine.

Someone will find the tomb of the missing floor toms one day. What a day hat will be:D

Andrew

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www.myspace.com/garagelandnz
Posted on 6 years ago
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