Looking to buy a Gretsch 14" floor tom. Looking for an orphan, in player grade or worse, wrap a mess, etc. I am going to refinish to natural, so looking for a drum that I can redo without feeling like I am taking off a wrap of value. :) [email]BradKBartlett@aol.com[/email] 60 year old drum pro, I have the 20" and the 8" by 12"............... trying to make a players set to gig every weekend.