Hello gwnAre the lugs on the replaced mounted tom the same style as the other drums?
Good question! No, they are slightly different. The earlier, original Crowns were smaller and more rounded and the later 8x12 lugs have a flat center ridge.
Thanks for the reply gwn
Those are the same Hoshino made lugs that are on my eight lug Crown toms as well
I have a few Hoshino kits with the standard six lug toms but again with those identical lugs
In your three pics, The first is Hoshino (Kougyou), the second is a Sakae, the third is a Star.
Most of the Crown drums I have found including the kit featured in the thread that Mark posted the link for, were made by "Hoshino" (not associated with Star)This point is a matter of contention still for many some of us believe there were only two separate stencil builders Star and PearlAnd some of us are convinced that there were actually three distinct and separate factories Those of us that believe in only two tend to credit Pearl for building kits that resemble these Crown drums in the attached linkWhile those of us that believe in three makers credit "Hoshino" or what's come to be referred to in order to save confusion here on the boards as "non-Star Hoshino"the confusion is due to Stars full name having "Hoshino in the title Hoshino gakki , I believe it is While a third and unrelated factory simply used the name "Hoshino"Now with all that said, the Crown name was first used by Star those kits wore the black oval badge typical to most Star made kitsThese kits for my experience at least, seem to be sort of rare to findAs with many kits that were initially produced by Star once the company stopped making stencil kits and re-tooled to form Tama non-Star Hoshino and Pearl continued to fulfill orders for those original Star labeled kitsby simply attaching often re-designed versions of the many names used on the Star made black oval badges onto their own obviously different product build -wiseWith regard to these Crown drums, I know of at least four different versions of Crown badges being usedby at least two of the three possible builders In short, same name, different badge, and a completely different buildThe only badge that I have ever noticed staying virtually unchanged throughout the whole timeline of these little kits being made regardless of the maker ..are the drums wearing Norma badges No matter what builder made the kits the badges used were always the same ones...I THINK...
Show the lugs and mounts an I can usually tell you the manufacturer. There were multiple pennant shaped brand logos.
I have a long term MIJ resto project (which I've posted previously) and have not been able to identify the brand - pennant-shaped glue residue from a badge I haven't been able to find anywhere. However, I came across an MIJ thread on DFO and one of the guys posted his Crown snare drum, which is very pretty. The badge on that snare drum has almost the same shape as the glue residue on my BD, and in the same position under the grommet.Here's his snare and a close-up of where the badge used to be on my bass (sorry, pic is upside down, and I've labelled it Hoshino because that's what I thought it was at the time). What do you think, is it a match? It's pretty damn close, and the closest I've found so far.So, if it is a Crown, can anyone tell me who made them? Was it Hoshino (either one) or Pearl?
Most of the Crown drums I have found including the kit featured in the thread that Mark posted the link for, were made by "Hoshino" (not associated with Star)This point is a matter of contention still for many some of us believe there were only two separate stencil builders Star and PearlAnd some of us are convinced that there were actually three distinct and separate factories Those of us that believe in only two tend to credit Pearl for building kits that resemble these Crown drums in the attached linkWhile those of us that believe in three makers credit "Hoshino" or what's come to be referred to in order to save confusion here on the boards as "non-Star Hoshino"the confusion is due to Stars full name having "Hoshino in the title Hoshino gakki , I believe it is While a third and unrelated factory simply used the name "Hoshino"Now with all that said, the Crown name was first used by Star those kits wore the black oval badge typical to most Star made kitsThese kits for my experience at least, seem to be sort of rare to findAs with many kits that were initially produced by Star once the company stopped making stencil kits and re-tooled to form Tama non-Star Hoshino and Pearl continued to fulfill orders for those original Star labeled kitsby simply attaching often re-designed versions of the many names used on the Star made black oval badges onto their own obviously different product build -wiseWith regard to these Crown drums, I know of at least four different versions of Crown badges being usedby at least two of the three possible builders In short, same name, different badge, and a completely different buildThe only badge that I have ever noticed staying virtually unchanged throughout the whole timeline of these little kits being made regardless of the maker ..are the drums wearing Norma badges No matter what builder made the kits the badges used were always the same ones...I THINK...
Ken, if you ever decide to let those blue Crowns go, please contact me first.
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