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What is the Best Head for Snare Side?

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Now that I am reassembling my Radio King (59), I noticed a slight tear in the snare side head - Remo Ambassador.

Since it has to be replaced, is there one particular brand/type head that works best...or at least, works better? I know sound is more of a personal taste issue, but I thought maybe there is a head (or heads) that works best with an 50's Radio King or RK's in general.

Sorry for all the questions, but this is my first Radio King and trying to do my best with it.

Great site!

Thanks very much.

Posted on 17 years ago
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I think if you want the original sound from 1959, then you must consider the heads that were available at that time -either calfskin or a very thin mylar -such as is found with a Remo Diplomat snare head. A new calfskin will probably cost you an arm and a leg....a new Diplomat is cheap!

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Posted on 17 years ago
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Got it, thanks...Diplomat (7mil)it is. But, if thin is what gives the sound, I did find an Evans head - Hazy 200 - which is 2mil....any effect?

Thanks.

Posted on 17 years ago
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Oh, yes, it will definitely have an effect! The thinner the snare side head is, the more sensitive it is. However, the thinner heads also add a certain "boink" (think of a bouncing ball sound) when played forcefully....which may not be what you want. BTW....A Diplomat snare side head is much thinner than 7 mil. I think it's 3 mil. or even less!

I use a coated Diplomat (7.5 mil) for my snare and tom tom batter heads on my vintage drums and I always use a Diplomat snare side head.

If you ever decide to go with some calfskins, then get a really good "slunk" snare side head and a thin, white Irish calfskin for the batter. Ooh la-la!

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Posted on 17 years ago
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Okay...I did look it up and, in fact, the standard Diplomat snare side head is 2 mil. thick.

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Posted on 17 years ago
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Great, then that is what I will put on.

Very much appreciated

Posted on 17 years ago
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Okay...I did look it up and, in fact, the standard Diplomat snare side head is 2 mil. thick.

Hi, not to be anal, but I thought the Diplomat Snare Side is a 3 mil thick head. Where did you read this info from? Mark

Posted on 17 years ago
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Hi, not to be anal, but I thought the Diplomat Snare Side is a 3 mil thick head. Where did you read this info from? Mark

Thinking again, I may myself be wrong about this, as I believe it is the Ambassador Snare Side which is a 3 Mil Head, and not the Diplomat. Sorry! :-) Mark

Posted on 17 years ago
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No problem. I wasn't sure, myself, until I looked.

From Sam Ash:

"The Remo Hazy Diplomat snare side drum head is a single ply of 2-mil Mylar designed as the perfect resonant head for snare drums. They are known for their bright warm tones, resonance, and sustain. Hazy Diplomat heads accentuate snare drum response and give a classic look to snare drums...."

And I always used the clear ones in the past. I don't know what difference "hazy" makes...but as long as the weight is the same, I suspect the difference bewteen "clear" and "hazy" is minor.

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Posted on 17 years ago
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No problem. I wasn't sure, myself, until I looked.From Sam Ash:"The Remo Hazy Diplomat snare side drum head is a single ply of 2-mil Mylar designed as the perfect resonant head for snare drums. They are known for their bright warm tones, resonance, and sustain. Hazy Diplomat heads accentuate snare drum response and give a classic look to snare drums...."And I always used the clear ones in the past. I don't know what difference "hazy" makes...but as long as the weight is the same, I suspect the difference bewteen "clear" and "hazy" is minor.

Howdy O-Lugs,

I suspect this information is correct. I've yet to find this type of info on Remo's own website, which is odd, don't you think? On musiciansfriend site, most of thier info is vague, and sometimes innacurate, and as an instance, stating that a Diplomat Snare Side is 7.5 mil thick, as we know it isn't.

Over the years I've tried both the Evans 200, and 300 Hazy Snare Sides, and I personally had difficulty with loss of tension with the 200 Hazy on my Slingy Spitfire Snare (Of course, others mileage may vary). Nothing but stretch stretch stretch! lol

The 300 worked fine, with maintaining high tension, and just recently, I re-headed this drum, went back to Remo, with a Diplomat Snare Side, and a Diplomat M-5 (5-Mil) Coated Batter. Very sweet combo with no probs. Mark

Posted on 17 years ago
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