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threaded inserts for 60's teardrop lugs.

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KK

Anyone know of a source for threaded inserts for 60's TD lugs.

I need few and can make em from scratch out of metal bar stock but if I don't have to.....

p.s. If I have to manufacture them myself, I may replace all of them with "brass" inserts. Any thoughts on this?

60's Sonor Teardrops & 70s Premier AMs
Sabian
Vic Firth
Remo/Evans

"unless it's vintage, it's just another wooden tube."
Posted on 10 years ago
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See here: http://www.stdrums.de/tips/teardroplug/teardroplug.htm

This may involve some fiddling around with a file to make the nuts fit, but I have done it on a whole kit (including snare drum), replacing inserts with damaged threads. It does work.

Best,

Magnus

Posted on 10 years ago
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thnx Magnus.

I've seen both as well.

I like the insert much more as I have seen some of the nuts "round off" and start to spin inside the lug.

I figger, this is the last time these drums will be worked on so I'm not cuttin any corners.

Thanx again.

60's Sonor Teardrops & 70s Premier AMs
Sabian
Vic Firth
Remo/Evans

"unless it's vintage, it's just another wooden tube."
Posted on 10 years ago
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OK, you do as you please, of course. But any replacement original inserts you may be able to pick up will definitely be old, and likely in not very good condition.

Also, I have not seen any of my nuts rounding off and spinning around inside the lugs. On the contrary, the inserts get worn and suddenly will not thread properly, thus needing to be replaced with a nut, that fits perfectly in the lug and threads like new.

I am not sure what to make by your suggestion that I was cutting corners when I renovated my teardrops. But if you actually have personal experience of "nutted" teardrop lugs "rounding off" in the way you indicate, well then I bow to your superior wisdom here.

I wish you the best of luck in your search for original teardrop inserts in pristine condition.

/Magnus

Posted on 10 years ago
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HOLY SMOKES.

GEEZ Magnus.

Don't take it to mean I think you are cutting corners.

I only meant that I want to do this the best, most permanent way possible.

I've seen teardrop lugs from the factory(i believe) with nuts, and I'm sure the factory wouldn't do crappy work).

I do most definitely appreciate your addition to the discussion.

I am merely seeking THE BEST solution by consensus.

After all, I only work with the things, I didn't invent em'. ;)

60's Sonor Teardrops & 70s Premier AMs
Sabian
Vic Firth
Remo/Evans

"unless it's vintage, it's just another wooden tube."
Posted on 10 years ago
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Well, all I really meant is that for me this method worked as well as or better than using the original inserts. Of course, if you can find NOS lugs with inserts, that will be the optimal solution.

But don't refrain from trying a "nut job", if you cannot find inserts in reasonable time.

Best,

Magnus

Posted on 10 years ago
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From Holliwood

KKAnyone know of a source for threaded inserts for 60's TD lugs.I need few and can make em from scratch out of metal bar stock but if I don't have to.....p.s. If I have to manufacture them myself, I may replace all of them with "brass" inserts. Any thoughts on this?

Not sure the Brass is a good idea. Brass meets steel creates electrolysis over short time. then you torque harder and can easily strip out the brass with the hardened t-rods. If you make them, it`s your own personal touch.

I`d go with the inserts just because it less problematic than try`n to catch that sliding back and forth nut when you put the heads back on. Ya gotta fiddle with the nuts.

If all fails, take a rod to the hardware store like suggested and get the 1/4" nuts in SS, I would !i

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

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Posted on 10 years ago
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From OddBall

I`d go with the inserts just because it less problematic than try`n to catch that sliding back and forth nut when you put the heads back on. Ya gotta fiddle with the nuts.

Put a piece of cotton or foam in the lug and the nuts should stay in place nicely.

Posted on 10 years ago
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From amosguy

Put a piece of cotton or foam in the lug and the nuts should stay in place nicely.

As I said, I have done this on most of the lugs on a kit plus snare drum. The nuts do not slide around inside the lug. Once the lug is mounted to the drum there is no way for you to know if there is a nut or an insert inside it.

The only fiddly bit is, again as I said above, when you may need to file away a bit on the nuts. I had to do that to get them to slide all the way in.

The cotton or foam tip is a good one. I think I did that on my lugs.

/Magnus

Posted on 10 years ago
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got lots

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Posted on 10 years ago
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