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Thoughts on playing a 13, 16, 20"

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Hey Guys,

I've been thinking of getting a kit with a 20" bass drum. The idea being to help get my tom down a little lower than with a 22" and what the heck, just cause I do not have a 20"!. I mostly play a 22" one up and one or two down. Right now I use a 12" for my tom on a snare stand, and a 16" floor.

I have been looking and noticed 20" kits with a 13" tend to sell more slowly, even at a fair discount compared to a 12, 14, 20".

It has me wondering why so here are a couple of thoughts.

I'm sure it can very from set to set but in general, does the 20" just not play as well with a 13" and 16" compared to a 12" and 14" or even a 12" and 16"?

Do you end up with a tom height about the same as you would with a 12" and 22" so not really an advantage there?

Is it possibly a visual thing? The 13" and 16" make a kit with a 20" look top heavy?

Anyone regularly playing a 13, 16, 20?

Thanks,

Wes

Posted on 7 years ago
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I have 3 kits i'm now using, 18" 14" 12" most just assume 18" is a 20"

Posted on 7 years ago
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One of my kits is a 1996 Ludwig, which came with 12, 13, 16, & 22. I have it set up now as a 4 piece, with the 12" tom. To me, this made the interval between the two toms more pronounced, as the 13" just seemed lower pitched than I prefer. With these toms, however, that also has a lot to do with their depth (12x11 and 13x12) . To me, the kit looks and sounds more "balanced" with the 12" tom. I would be more concerned about the sound than the looks, but that's just me.

Posted on 7 years ago
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I know I am probably in the minority on this, but 13,16,20 is becoming my favourite combo.

The 20 can do anything, switching between rock, soul and jazz is no problem at all, while I was never comfortable with the 22's I had, they tend to be too loud for my taste.

I also happen to like how it looks, I'm so used to it that I think a 22 looks strange, sends the 13 up flying...oh well, each to their own. :)

Posted on 7 years ago
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That's one of my favorite configurations, have owned many kits in these sizes.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 7 years ago
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The old Sonors from late 50s til early 70s were most commonly sold like that. The old 13's were 9" deep which sounds really good with a 20X14. Personally I still prefer a 14" floor but mostly due to physical size not so much the tone or sound.

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Posted on 7 years ago
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Thoughts? Just play 'em! If drums sound good together, play them together!

I fall for the 12/14/20 and 13/16/22 trap as well. I do have a 13/16/20 kit that I play that nobody ever asks why the bass drum is so small. They're drums. They sound good. I play them okay enough. Besides "catalog" and collectability reasons, they're just a good set of drums--drums that you might just be able to get for a slightly better price!

1970 Ludwig Downbeat
1965 Ludwig Hollywood
1970 Ludwig Jazzette
Posted on 7 years ago
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Dude do you have any idea how many guys (including me) have played a 13, 16, 20 configuration over the years? Because it didn't appear often in the old catalogs doesn't make it a weird, or invalid set up. Lots of drummers play that exact set up. In fact, you can play whatever set up works best for you and there is no right and wrong about it.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

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Posted on 7 years ago
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Thanks for the responses guys!

Mainly asking cause a couple of sets I have seen advertised would be the better part of a day trip to be able to check them out.

Posted on 7 years ago
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I like them a lot. I have two sets. I prefer a 20, 12, 14 in general, but 20, 13, 16 is good for outdoor situations where you only have a mic on the bass and one at the snare and hats. Gives you some more tom volume without working as hard or distorting the sound by hitting too hard to get the volume.

The first photos is one of the sets. I got it from a forum member for short $$. It has some wrap issues. I use it to practice in the shed so that doesn't really matter for now. Great sound and a complete original set from 1969. Would have been a beauty if the wrap hadn't let go. The Dynasonic didn't come with the set.

The second photo is a jet black set. I sold it to that band when I left Jeddah.

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