The thing about Cymbal cleaning is that once you clean one for the first time, you are then pretty much locked in to maintaining it for it's life.Some years back, a lot of large green blotches began appearing on my nice Zildjian ride & crash... finally after some investigative observation I worked it out. We were doing a lot of party cruises on Sydney Harbour, we would always be jammed up into the bow section and forced to play in extreme "close quarters"... Turns out our 6ft something bassist was playing partly over the cymbals and dripping a concoction of sweat, aftershave, and whatever else secretes from a Maltese diet all over my gear. When I told him he just laughed his head off.Laughing HCheersJohn