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Supra Issue-Heads loosening while playing

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Greetings,

I picked up a early 70's Supra a few years back and have been playing the last few shows with it. FYI, it's a B/O pointy badge with no serial number, so to the best of my knowledge that is early 70's.

Everything is factory, except for the heads & snare wires and I also replaced the hoops with 2.3 mm. I am having an issue with both heads, particularly the batter head, de-tuning while playing.

I am not a hard hitter at all. I am using this snare for a rock gig and I do play rimshots on virtually every backbeat, but that is "standard operating procedure" for me during rock gigs. I use multiple snare drums in my arsenal, and I do not have this problem with any of the other snares I use on this type of gig. Several of the snares in "my rotation" are lower quality than the Supra. When tuned up where I like it (think Buddy style-higher pitched with lots of "ping" and ring) it sounds awesome in nearly every room. By the end of a 45-60 minute set, it is significantly fatter and lower in pitch because of the de-tuning issue. Not that it sounds bad, just that it's not the sound that I want to get out of it. FYI-The heads have several gigs worth of use, and have been de-tuned to no tension and then started tensioning over again from scratch multiple times, so they are plenty stretched out. Also, the hoops are brand new, quality 2.3 mm that are perfectly in round, so it's not an out of round hoop that might be causing the issue.

I know there are multiple products out there to help eliminate this problem. However, since this issue is unique to just my Supra and not to any other snares I own (which again, I've had no problems with any of them de-tuning at all), I am wondering if anyone else has this issue with their Supras?

Thanks for your help,

V

Posted on 7 years ago
#1
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Maybe that is why you see Supra's with lug-lockers on them.

Posted on 7 years ago
#2
Guest

I think supras are well known for that issue. I read about someone wrapping cotton thread around the tension rod threads before you insert them, which tightens them up. You might also try Teflon plumber's tape.

Posted on 7 years ago
#3
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From vyacheslav

Greetings,I picked up a early 70's Supra a few years back and have been playing the last few shows with it. FYI, it's a B/O pointy badge with no serial number, so to the best of my knowledge that is early 70's.Everything is factory, except for the heads & snare wires and I also replaced the hoops with 2.3 mm. I am having an issue with both heads, particularly the batter head, de-tuning while playing.I am not a hard hitter at all. I am using this snare for a rock gig and I do play rimshots on virtually every backbeat, but that is "standard operating procedure" for me during rock gigs. I use multiple snare drums in my arsenal, and I do not have this problem with any of the other snares I use on this type of gig. Several of the snares in "my rotation" are lower quality than the Supra. When tuned up where I like it (think Buddy style-higher pitched with lots of "ping" and ring) it sounds awesome in nearly every room. By the end of a 45-60 minute set, it is significantly fatter and lower in pitch because of the de-tuning issue. Not that it sounds bad, just that it's not the sound that I want to get out of it. FYI-The heads have several gigs worth of use, and have been de-tuned to no tension and then started tensioning over again from scratch multiple times, so they are plenty stretched out. Also, the hoops are brand new, quality 2.3 mm that are perfectly in round, so it's not an out of round hoop that might be causing the issue.I know there are multiple products out there to help eliminate this problem. However, since this issue is unique to just my Supra and not to any other snares I own (which again, I've had no problems with any of them de-tuning at all), I am wondering if anyone else has this issue with their Supras?Thanks for your help,V

Hmmm I regularly played a supra back in the day and never had that issue. My son regularly gigs with a 5x14 hammered bronze and 6.5x14 Black Beauty which are essentially supras and does not have that problem. I'm wondering if swapping out the hoops could be the culprit.

Mark
BosLover
Posted on 7 years ago
#4
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I've only had this problem with a late 70's 6.5 Supra. Not sure why. It would drop a tension rod all the way out of the bottom hoop while I was playing it. Strange.

Mike

Posted on 7 years ago
#5
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Think on the heads , the new imports strech a lot because of low manufacturing tolarence go to a vintage head its made for the drum

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 7 years ago
#6
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This happens to me on all snares. I had lug locks but they didn't do any good; they just became deformed. I just keep on eye/ear on my tension during a show.

Zach

Currently looking for a 3-ply 24x14 Ludwig in champagne sparkle w/rail consolette and cymbal mount!
Posted on 7 years ago
#7
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From TheElectricCompany

This happens to me on all snares. I had lug locks but they didn't do any good; they just became deformed. I just keep on eye/ear on my tension during a show.

I heard that some people have issues like yours. I think it may have something to do with playing style. I played mostly jazz, big band and pop and never really noticed it except as a result of left handed rim shots. (I play traditional grip.) It seemed the rod nearest to the location of the rim shot had a tendency to loosen over time.

Mark
BosLover
Posted on 7 years ago
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