This is very good discussion!

Here are some photos of the cymbal from my initial post:

Also, this is the same stamp as Chromeo's thread that he was asking about:

http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?p=317098#post317098

It is very domed shaped and has a great edge wobble. It measures just shy of 22" (about 21 13/16") and nice and thin at 2311 grams. The very edge of the cymbal almost curves downward, kind of like a reverse Sabian Sound Control.

What I have read is that after WW2 the british government asked immigrants that wanted to stay in the UK what their former jobs were. In this case a group of Italians were asked and responded that they were from a family a cymbal maker so the gov. hooked them up with Premier and they began making Zyn and Krut. There are a few articles online. I'm searching for one now. Others say this is an urban legend, so who knows..

BTW, I have a Krut Special that I sold a while back, then turned around and bought back because I missed it's tone and weird wash. Definitely not "old K-ish", just nice to my ears!

vyacheslav, this stamp appears to be the more commonly seen Super-Zyn stamp. If you notice the line under the word SUPER is straight. The rarer, small stamp has a curved line. From my experience these are almost always hand hammered.

Hmm, maybe I'm missing something, but to me our stamps look the same. Both lines under "Super" look straight to me. Yours (Photo 1) is missing the "Made In England" part of the stamp, unless it's faint.

Anyone else?

Take a l ook at the photo I have taken of the stamps. You'll notice the sizes are different and the font is slightly different. The small stamp is from an 18" and the larger stamp is from a 14" Hi Hat.

The small stamp cymbal does not have the same machine hammering as the 14" Hats - It's completely hand hammered and has a very flat profile. It's also very thin and dark, trashy sounding. Excellent cymbal for old time, stuffy old jazz music. :)

I think it's only around 1250 grams and very bendy /wobbly.