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hi everyone, hi doc,

something has been driving me nuts about slingy rims.

in particular, their sticksaver rims. sorry if this has come up before, i don't mean to be redundant, however i've not seen, or found anything regarding the question, so here goes.

to the point, what is it, or why is it, that some of the sticksaver rims are short, while others are tall?

i'm referring to the upright part of the rim, that's behind the t-rods, looking directly at it's profile, from straight on.

the taller ones, they are flanged in at the top, however the t-rod only reaches half way up the rim. it's not a stck-chopper rim, cause it has that curved in flange at the top, but it looks as tall as a stick-chopper.

the shorter ones, look as if the flange might just curve in a bit more. while the t-rod, reaches almost all the way to the top of the rim. viewing it of course from the same direct straight on view.

i thought it might be due to the depth of the head, however it shows up too many times, on too many drums, leading to me to conclude there are 2 different sizes. i'd love to know why, what for, what's the difference, if any other than the height.

i hope that definition/distinction is clear enough to make sense.

if it's not clear, i know how much we all LOVE pics, i will try to round up a pic of each, for examples, and post em.

however i figured this would be an easy one to answer for the walking slingy encyclopedia guys that are so cool, and heros to so many of us.

thank you so very much in advance,

dp sean of dpdrums.com

keep up the GREAT work David. LOVE this site, it's the BEST site on the web, bar none.

and the beat goes on....
http://dpdrums.com
dig the beat....
Posted on 17 years ago
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[COLOR="Navy"]Hello dpdrums:

Just now saw your post; I don't always scan all of the forum pages the way I would like to have the time to.

Actually there are several different versions of the Slingerland "rim shot" or "stick-saver" hoop, differing in several respects, though the overall look from a distance appears the same. I'll discuss this in detail in future articles, but the hoop you are mainly referencing is a classic COS hoop profile that appeared in the 1970s and 1980s. It is indeed taller above the flesh hoop of the head, with a more modest inward flange at the top edge. And yes this latter feature contrasts with the earliest COS hoops and with the earlier COB hoops.

There was no earth shattering reason for it in terms of a performance goal; it had a slightly different cosmetic look, and was also marginally easier to make.

DrCJW[/COLOR]

Posted on 17 years ago
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ok, thank you for the reply....

i am happy to hear my eyes aren't playing tricks with me. i knew they where different in height.

well i look forward to the article.

will i be notified my email when it is published?

also, i have been colecting badges for you, and doing to graphics editing for you to so that they have a white,or no background, just like all the others on your site.

again, thank you for the best site on the web.

you are truly the MAN!

i tell everyone about your site. it is THE most, best, completest drum site there is, period.

i want to give you a million thanks for this great resourse, you have have so laboriously put together for all us drummers needing a place to find the info you are providing.

wish i was rich, and could donate a whole bunch of cash to you. however i am doing my best to gather an clean up pics for you.

i will send them all to you once i have aq bunch ready. i just keep finding more and more all the time.

a lot of them are coming from pics on ebay, however the sellers of the auctions have been very generous so far and don't have a problem with me downloading them to use. i've alway made sure it waqs cool to download them.

like you, i know what it feels like when i find my personal pics on someone elses site. i have even seen one of my pics turned into a t-shirt without my permission. which i am sure i would have gladly granted, if they would have just asked.

they don't even give credit, they just take it like it was community property. well you know all about that. i have read your article regarding the use of your pics.

at any rate, i LOVE the site, and have infinite respect for you for doing all this wonderful collecting of info and pics and taking the time to publish them in you website.

i wish there was more i could do to get involved and help with the growth of this, the best site for vintage drums on the planet.

i wish you and yours the very best of the holidaqy season, and beyond.

sincerely,

dp sean of dpdrums.com

and the beat goes on....
http://dpdrums.com
dig the beat....
Posted on 17 years ago
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dpdrums...

Tommyp here... ( Moderator of this most excellent site! ) ... I wanted to clarify something for you:

DrCJW is one of our highly regarded contributors to this site... and there are a lot of others that freely/openly share their knowledge... but,

It is not his site. This site was conceived and put together by the Webmaster ( David Anfuso ) and it was David's concept/collections that started this whole thing. I am also a major contributor, primarily on Rogers drums, DrCJW is the resident Slingerland expert, etc... So,

We welcome your membership/posts!... and thank you for the kudos offered! ... but I thought you might want to know who was REALLY behind this site with it's excellent layout, navigation, images, etc.

Thanks again for your enthusiasim and contributions... and of course thanks to David for his concept and tenacity at maintaining one of "THE BEST" vintage drum sites on the web!

Tommyp

Posted on 17 years ago
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hi tommy p,

yeah, thats right. i knew that. i am sorry dr. don't know why i jumped to the conclusion it was david that replied.

i guess i didn't think i was wothy of a reply by the dr.

at any rate thank you tommy for pointing that out to me.

i feel pretty stupid for assuming. it is something in which i try to make a habit of NOT doing.

anyway, i appreciate you seeing to it that credit goes to whom it is due.

also, i'd like to thank you too doc. i've seen your posts, and it nothing short of amazing how much you know about slingy drums.

not to mention the fact that you so willingly share your wisdom to us all.

i wish there was a pocket version of you.......lol

again thank you tommy p, for setting me straight, and pointing the light on david, the rightful original MAN of the site.

as you can see i really though it was david i was talking to.

wow, i got a reply by the doc. i feel very fortunate, what an honor.

thank you all from my entire heart. you are all GREAT human beings. to whom i, for one, am most grateful.

words cannot express how much i appreciate what you are all doing. i know you must all love drums, as much as i know i do.

best holiday wishes to you doc, tommy p, and david, plus those i don't yet know, but have put their hearts and wisdom into this site.

i'm sure you all know how valuable, and what an AWESOME site this is.

peace be with you all,

dp sean of dpdrums.com

p.s. thanks tommy p, you rule!

and the beat goes on....
http://dpdrums.com
dig the beat....
Posted on 17 years ago
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Thanks! guys

Without the experts I can only go so far. I know a lot about many things. They are truly focused and know a lot about specific things, which make them the experts. Thanks to the experts for letting us have that info and not keeping it to themselves! In business school we used the terms generalist and specialist.

Hey dpdrums, I checked out your web site yesterday and I like your lay out and design. This site is probably on its 7th design, some day I plan on going back to the original to show people.

Thanks again and averyone have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. I will be working on the site all week and adding new stuff.

David

Posted on 17 years ago
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