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Hi all,

Have a question about Slingerland set o matic / super set o matic. I have a 73 Slingerland copper over wood set, mine has set o matic double on it, I am looking to buy a 1969 /70 black diamond set, it has a super set o matic double tree on it. My question is, I understand that Slingerland started the super set o matic in 1976. Could anyone help me to understand.

Thanks as always...Bucky

Posted on 9 years ago
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Both use the same brackets so someone could have switched the SSOM out after the fact. The only potential problem would be the placement of the mounting plate on the bass drum. This varied with the different setups. The base for the single generally would be oriented closer to the player, the regular double was more centered on the drum, and the super was placed near the front of the drum.

Posted on 9 years ago
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The original double setomatic is not very adjustable. Well if you have one you know. The super setomatic is much more adjustable. Has two separate post for the toms. I need one actually. My double setomatic is not useable to me. Tom's are set to far apart for my taste and I don't know many people who like them. I like the single setomatic tom holder and use one sometimes on a one up setup.

Posted on 9 years ago
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From K.O.

Both use the same brackets so someone could have switched the SSOM out after the fact. The only potential problem would be the placement of the mounting plate on the bass drum. This varied with the different setups. The base for the single generally would be oriented closer to the player, the regular double was more centered on the drum, and the super was placed near the front of the drum.

Exactly what K.O. says...the Super Set-O-Matic would have the bass plate towards the front of the bass drum.

-Mark

Posted on 9 years ago
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I bought two super S-O-M mounts for use on my Slingerland kits, each of which came with the totally useless original S-O-M. So the toms are closer in on my kits than I would prefer but I've gotten used to it because I'd rather have the angles and individual adjustments that the Super S-O-M makes possible.

I'd say to buy that set and enjoy the Super S-O-M, which can be pretty expensive.

And I have to add that I recently acquired a BDP kit. I knew it would be cool, but I was surprised by how stunning it is in real life. It's quickly becoming one of my favorites, and i already had some pretty cool kits.

9x Slingerland New Rock 50N 12-13-16-22 with 170 (Super S-O-M) holder
• 1979 Oak
• 1978 Blakrome + 6.5x14 TDR SD
• 1977 Black Diamond Pearl + 5x14 SD (gold badge, Rapid strainer)
• 1976 Black Cordova
• 1975 Silver Sparkle + 5x14 SD (Rapid strainer)
• 1974 Chrome + 5x14 COB TDR and 6.5x14 COW Zoomatic SDs
• 1973 Purple Sparkle
• 1973 Phantom (clear)
• 1971 Walnut (gold badges) + 5x14 TDR SD
1x Rogers Powertone Londoner V 12-13-16-22
• 1972 Butcher Block + 1979 big R Dynasonic SD
Posted on 9 years ago
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Yes... what KO says is Spot On.... Not a big fan of the Super Set O Matic at all. Had one supplied with my current 70's kit when new but could not get an acceptable set up with it. Mine was early days when the BD Mount was still centered... (Later they moved it forward to an inch or so from the front hoop). Took mine back after a few weeks and swapped it for the standard double post which was not ideal either but I adapted to it. I now use a single arm and the RH tom sits next to the FT on a snare stand...

I'd rate the Super SOM as probably the worst thing that Slingerland ever put their name to... Ridiculous amount of metal used in an amateurish design... OH and for packing the thing up....

Cheers

John

'77 Slingerland 51N,Super Rock 24,18,14,13.. COW 8,10 Concert toms
'69 Slingerland Hollywood Ace
'75 Rogers Dynasonic 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'77-78 Slingerland 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'78-79 Slingerland 5 1/4 x14 8 lug COB
'79 Biman 5 1/4, Acrolite
'82 Slingerland 5 1/4 x 14. Festival COS
'84 Tama MasterCraft Superstar 6.5 x 14, 10 lug Rosewood
'98 Slingerland (Music YO) 6" 10 Lug Maple.. NOS
Zildjian, Sabian , UFIP & Paiste mix.
Posted on 9 years ago
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From longjohn

I'd rate the Super SOM as probably the worst thing that Slingerland ever put their name to... Ridiculous amount of metal used in an amateurish design... OH and for packing the thing up...

Can't argue with that, but if you want to maintain Slingerland integrity without drilling ...

In 1982, when my 1977 Slingerlands were not vintage, I had a Tama center mount installed (I didn't even consider the Super S-O-M for the reasons noted above). Looking back, I would have preferred Yamaha, but cost was a consideration then and I think there was a $50 difference.

In this day and age, however, I think that many members of this forum would agree that the Super S-O-M is the best option in this situation, at least those for whom playability is the primary consideration.

Al

9x Slingerland New Rock 50N 12-13-16-22 with 170 (Super S-O-M) holder
• 1979 Oak
• 1978 Blakrome + 6.5x14 TDR SD
• 1977 Black Diamond Pearl + 5x14 SD (gold badge, Rapid strainer)
• 1976 Black Cordova
• 1975 Silver Sparkle + 5x14 SD (Rapid strainer)
• 1974 Chrome + 5x14 COB TDR and 6.5x14 COW Zoomatic SDs
• 1973 Purple Sparkle
• 1973 Phantom (clear)
• 1971 Walnut (gold badges) + 5x14 TDR SD
1x Rogers Powertone Londoner V 12-13-16-22
• 1972 Butcher Block + 1979 big R Dynasonic SD
Posted on 9 years ago
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Some of us are shorter people with shorter arms and legs. Some double tom mounts place the toms too far and too high to reach comfortably. So, please don't generalize about a piece of gear being awkward for anyone but yourself. My two-up configuration would probably have the toms too close, angled too far toward the drummer, and too low off the bass drum to be comfortble for some others.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
Posted on 9 years ago
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I've long been trying to come up with a no-drill substitute for my double SOM. My big complaint is that the angles cannot be individually adjusted, nor can the distance from the drummer be adjusted.

One thing I found out is that the standard Slingerland mount bracket on the toms will securely grip a knurled 12.5mm tom mount arm, which of course allows for angle adjustment.

So if I can somehow mount a dual ball mount post without altering the bass drum, I might have the answer.

-Erik
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Early '70's Slingerland New Rock #50 in blue agate (20-16-13-12)
Late '50's WFL Swingster/Barrett Deems in black/gold Duco
'70's Slingerland Gene Krupa Sound King COB
early '70's Ludwig Acrolite
'80's Ludwig Rocker II 6 1/2" snare
Rogers Supreme Big "R" hi hat

Posted on 9 years ago
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I can understand your commits, I actually have both on my 73 set. I have one mounted on bass, ( regular SOM), which as you all said is mounting plate is closer to the front of the bass, and I have 2 more SSOM, that came with the set, one for the bass, has one arm ( need another one ), and 1 on my dual tom stand. I am like you all, they are hard to adjust and I really like the regular SOM.

The 69/70 set I am looking to buy has the SSOM on the bass, and from research I have done, Slingerland didn't start making the SSOM until 76. I must be wrong, because my 73 set has them, and as some of you all stated have them also. So my conclusion is that Slingerland did make them before 76. or the Thanks all for the commits.

Posted on 9 years ago
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