I wonder if anyone could identify the approx. year of the Slingerland set I am reconditioning. Drums are 14x20, 8x10,16x16. No snare. The bass drum 170332, and the 16x16 floor tom 186745, both have "P" stamped in shell. The 8x12 170772 does not. Each drum has been painted/coated beige color. The BD was re-worked and re-drilled to accept a cheap double tom holder. I was told by a local "expert" that these were 1964 drums. He surmised that it was a 4 pc set and the BD, TT and FT were together and a part of the original set. There are holes on the BD to accept the consulate rail, and the bracket holes of the tom look to be the diamond shape bracket of the 50s,60's,70s etc era. What I've read though, is that the Slingerland tom toms up until late 1966 didn't have any badges or vent holes. So I question how these can be 1964. Most of the mounting hardware inside ea drum (screws/bolts) are the hex head type, other than a few on the floor tom and the bass drum, they look older and are round, phillips head. If this helps. Ive enclosed pics of ea drum below. Any help would be appreciated..thanks so much!!
Slingerland set year?
Here are additional photos of this Slingerland set. Thanks again for any input--
That time frame seems correct to me.Yes Sir
1965 Ludwig Clubdate Oyster Blue
1966 Ludwig Clubdate Oyster Black
1969 Ludwig BB Blue Oyster Keystone Clubdate
1971 Ludwig BB Black Oyster
Early 60's Camco Oaklawns Champagne Sparkle
you think 1964 is the approx year?
I think from the serial time line available elsewhere on this site you're looking at drums that are a bit later, possibly 1967ish. The gold badges definitely place them in between 1962 and 1970. If I remember correctly Slingerland stopped putting badges on toms at some point in the early 60's and didn't resume putting them on until 1965-66 so that in itself would exclude 1964 as the correct year. The "P" stamp on the interiors was simply to indicate a shell that was intended to be finished off with a wrap rather than a paint job or natural finish ("P" for "pearl" which Slingerland called all their wraps whether pearly, sparkly, or whatever).
If you go to the top of the page in this forum and click on the Vintage Identification tab there is extensive info available there, particularly about Slingerland drums.
Hi AlloyBoy!
Your kit is from around 1967 to early 1968. My 1967 kit has serial numbers ranging from 115xxx to 137xxx and from 1967. Slingerland produced a TON of drums during this time period, so that spread of serial numbers on your kit doesn't surprise me that they are also from 1967. This is also based on the chocolate milk interiors and that you say the drum had a consolette holder on the bass and diamond plate on the tom. By 1968, Slingerland began using the aluminum Set-O-Matic holder.
The Slinerland serial number timeline can be found here... http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/drcjw/article_2_serial_numbers_page3.html
-Mark
Hi AlloyBoy!Your kit is from around 1967 to early 1968. My 1967 kit has serial numbers ranging from 115xxx to 137xxx and from 1967. Slingerland produced a TON of drums during this time period, so that spread of serial numbers on your kit doesn't surprise me that they are also from 1967. This is also based on the chocolate milk interiors and that you say the drum had a consolette holder on the bass and diamond plate on the tom. By 1968, Slingerland began using the aluminum Set-O-Matic holder. The Slinerland serial number timeline can be found here... http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/drcjw/article_2_serial_numbers_page3.html-Mark
Thanks Mark so much for the helpful information. I rally appreciate it! This narrows it down a little. It was also helpful to know that Slingerland went away from the rail consulate in 68 to the Set-O-Matic. That was another question I was going to ask!! Regards..
I think from the serial time line available elsewhere on this site you're looking at drums that are a bit later, possibly 1967ish. The gold badges definitely place them in between 1962 and 1970. If I remember correctly Slingerland stopped putting badges on toms at some point in the early 60's and didn't resume putting them on until 1965-66 so that in itself would exclude 1964 as the correct year. The "P" stamp on the interiors was simply to indicate a shell that was intended to be finished off with a wrap rather than a paint job or natural finish ("P" for "pearl" which Slingerland called all their wraps whether pearly, sparkly, or whatever).If you go to the top of the page in this forum and click on the Vintage Identification tab there is extensive info available there, particularly about Slingerland drums.
Thank you so much for this info as well. I thought possibly it was from later than 1964, because of what is stated on this, and other forums/websites, about the vent holes/badges. You kinda confirmed that for me. Thanks again and have a blessed day...
If I could ask one more question. Why is it that some sets, even with badges and serial numbers, were stamped inside the shell with a date, and others, like mine, have a badge and S/N but w/o a stamped date inside? Was it that sometimes the workers, assemblers, quality personnel, etc. just got the urge? I wonder..
I'm not that familiar with Slingerland details but in the case of Ludwig date stamps it seems that some drums simply didn't get stamped. Perhaps the worker doing it simply forgot or just didn't bother. I would think the same would apply to Slingerland. These were both drum FACTORIES and the workers therein weren't necessarily overly concerned about such details. If their bosses were similarly unconcerned it would be easy enough to skip a task or two.
Additionally, at least in the case of Ludwigs, it's all to easy to obliterate a date stamp with a simply shot of Windex if someone decides to clean a drum's interior the date stamp might not survive. I don't know if Slingerland may have used a more resistant ink on theirs but they weren't stamping these for the benefit of collectors decades later.
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