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hi there,

and now for something non-vintage:

i bought a pair of dw 5002a pedals in 1993 and never thought about them again (just played them...)

however, they last long, but not forever and now a lot of the aluminium in crucial areas (e.g.: the parts where the ball bearings are put in) has worn to the point that the pedal makes unwelcome noises and feels well, worn out.

since i was pretty happy with these dws i was thinking of just going to the store and buying the current series, but i tried and disliked them... they felt somehow heavy and spaceship like...

i really liked the simplicity and lightness of the camco style dws.

also the sales guy in my local store told me that they have a lot of issues with the current dw-line and that the procuction is now what it used to be.

i found out that dw still produces the old ones, which are now called 5000ax and lack the bottom plate. but again i heard the quality is not the same

any thoughts on this?

any other simple pedal you guys can recommend?

thanks

Posted on 15 years ago
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I have the older style dw 5000 chain drive and the dw 9000. The 9000 has the nylon strap, which I have heard is closer to a vintage pedal in feel. I use the 9000 all the time and love it. As far as simplicity well I think most new pedals have their share of adjustments.

Posted on 15 years ago
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I have a number of different brands currently and over 35 years of playing have tried ALOT of kinds (like most of us here I`m sure). After all is said and done- I like the [COLOR="Red"]Tama Iron Cobra single pedal[/COLOR] the best of all I`ve played. It`s strong and adjustable, responsive, I even like it`s look/design.

I use it with a Vintage Bomber for playing bop, a hard wood beater for rock n roll (classic) and a hard felt beater as well. The floor plate is so solid that it all feels smooth and secure. I really do like it. I have to play others all the time, I have a Pearl pedal reversed for cocktail drums, even a Giant Step. I would recommend the Sonor Giant Step but the price is so high that I can`t really recommend it. I love it and it`s smooth like a Mercedes Benz, but much too pricey for what you get.

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Posted on 15 years ago
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I've found that different size bass drums work best with different pedals.

My favorite pedal is the Ghost, but it doesn't fit the 26" kick I use now - the hoop doesn't protrude much. So I use a 90's Ludwig which is nothing special but it's ok.

I've used Speed Kings too and prefer them on my 20" kick because they aren't as high as my Ghost. The Ghost worked great on my 22" kick. With the same amount of effort the Ghost pedal seems to give a more powerful, louder stroke than the other pedals I've tried. That makes it nice for kick heavy music.

I really like the Ghost in that the springs face in different directions, so one spring pushes the beater away from the head in a unique way that I've only felt on that pedal.

The smallest, lightest pedal I know of is the Ludwig Universal Speedmaster we talked about on the cocktail drum thread.

Posted on 15 years ago
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From Bloody Rich

hi there,and now for something non-vintage:i bought a pair of dw 5002a pedals in 1993 and never thought about them again (just played them...) however, they last long, but not forever and now a lot of the aluminium in crucial areas (e.g.: the parts where the ball bearings are put in) has worn to the point that the pedal makes unwelcome noises and feels well, worn out.since i was pretty happy with these dws i was thinking of just going to the store and buying the current series, but i tried and disliked them... they felt somehow heavy and spaceship like...i really liked the simplicity and lightness of the camco style dws.also the sales guy in my local store told me that they have a lot of issues with the current dw-line and that the procuction is now what it used to be.i found out that dw still produces the old ones, which are now called 5000ax and lack the bottom plate. but again i heard the quality is not the sameany thoughts on this?any other simple pedal you guys can recommend?thanks

Are you sure its not the bearings themselves that are worn out and not the pedal posts? I've been able to get replacement bearings online before from a bearing suppy house for the old DW, Camco (not the Tama version), and Gretsch Floating Action pedals without much difficulty. New bearings, a new footboard hinge from DW and a new strap and spring brings new life into these older pedals. Nothing on the market today is really close to them in my opinion. Maybe post some pics of the problem areas of the pedal so we can see how bad it is, maybe a refurbish is in order. Also, I've heard of DW "tuning up" their older pedals for endorsers after long punishing tours. Maybe you can contact them and see if they can refurbish your current pedals?

Posted on 15 years ago
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've been able to get replacement bearings online before from a bearing suppy house for the old DW, Camco (not the Tama version), and Gretsch Floating Action pedals without much difficulty.

ah.... hmm... i went to a local place that deals in bearings and the guy told me the bearings are some special models... which he can not get.

but maybe this is because i live in europe?

where did you get the stuff?

Posted on 15 years ago
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From Bloody Rich

ah.... hmm... i went to a local place that deals in bearings and the guy told me the bearings are some special models... which he can not get.but maybe this is because i live in europe?where did you get the stuff?

It was a couple of years ago, but it was a local bearing supply house in Massachusetts. The name escapes me, but what I did to find the bearing was disassemble the pedal and remove one from the pedal and found a number on the old bearing. Then I did a google search using the part number stamped into the bearing with the word bearing after the part number. I got all kinds of results and just picked the closest one. Then I bought a few to keep as spares as well as the one I needed to fix the pedal I was rebuilding. I have used them all since then, but they should be easy to locate once again.

Posted on 15 years ago
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From Ludwig-dude

It was a couple of years ago, but it was a local bearing supply house in Massachusetts. The name escapes me, but what I did to find the bearing was disassemble the pedal and remove one from the pedal and found a number on the old bearing. Then I did a google search using the part number stamped into the bearing with the word bearing after the part number. I got all kinds of results and just picked the closest one. Then I bought a few to keep as spares as well as the one I needed to fix the pedal I was rebuilding. I have used them all since then, but they should be easy to locate once again.

ah, i see, on my bearings is no number...

Posted on 15 years ago
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From Bloody Rich

ah, i see, on my bearings is no number...

There should be a number on it somewhere....every bearing I've ever come across has some kind of manufacturers mark on it.

Posted on 15 years ago
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From Ludwig-dude

There should be a number on it somewhere....every bearing I've ever come across has some kind of manufacturers mark on it.

hi there,

well i had finally time to take it apart again ... no numbers, see photos.

i guess i just give up and get a new dw 5000ax.

Posted on 14 years ago
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