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Rogers Swivomatic Pedal Adjustment Questions

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From 8upwithit

Thanks for the input! Mine has the original BlackJack, too, but I'm sure it has more miles than yours. One thing that always bothered me about the pedal was the way the spring tension adjustment screw and wing nut would wobble a little. I cured this with another nut on the spring side (opposite of the wing nut on top), sort of the way most other pedals are. It also keeps the tension setting locked down.

Very cool little fix for your loosening wingnut/tension retainer! I will say that fortunately, I have never had that issue with any of mine! On my two "working/gigging" Swivo's, the wingnuts have wax inserts which gives them enough resistance to not back off or lose tension while you're playing, and those were OEM at the time! On many other model Swivo-Matics, Rogers used a thumbscrew/wheel style retainer, and those can loosen as the spring starts to stretch, as there's nothing really keeping them from doing so. Your fix would be ideal there!

Tommyp

Posted on 6 years ago
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From kenshireen

Tommy, I see the wing nut in the top of the spring and the washers underneath but I don't understand where there is another nut on the spring side that you are referring to. It isn't on the bottom of the spring mechanism.So where is it?Also, my beater cannot be centered on my bass drum... it is a bit off to the left. I have the hoop clamps as far to the right as possible until the bang into my bass drum claws.

Hey Ken!

It wasn't me mentioning the other retaining nut, it was 8upwithit. He uses that fix to keep the spring from loosening ... mine never have. I just posted as you did here, so I mention that in my post. Have a look! As far as NOT hitting DEAD CENTER ... you are right, they don't! It's just the way the pedal is designed/built. The beater hits slightly LEFT of center .. however .. not an issue at all! Just the nature of the design. I have never noticed any difference is sound, feel, or even head wear. To the uninitiated, it can be a tad disconcerting in looks! :) Here's a driver's side view from a recent Sinatra Show I played. These are my Fibes, but there's the Swivo ... and you can see it's slightly off center to the left for it's impact area. :)

Tommyp

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Posted on 6 years ago
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From Tommyp

Hey Ken!It wasn't me mentioning the other retaining nut, it was 8upwithit. He uses that fix to keep the spring from loosening ... mine never have. I just posted as you did here, so I mention that in my post. Have a look! As far as NOT hitting DEAD CENTER ... you are right, they don't! It's just the way the pedal is designed/built. The beater hits slightly LEFT of center .. however .. not an issue at all! Just the nature of the design. I have never noticed any difference is sound, feel, or even head wear. To the uninitiated, it can be a tad disconcerting in looks! :) Tommyp

Actually, I did that to keep the threaded rod that the spring hooks into from wobbling, as it did on my pedal. I did the same thing on my Tama Hi-Beat pedals, which have the same arrangement with the upward-facing spring arm as the Swivos and Supreme pedals. By the way, that issue has been addressed on the new Tama Classic pedal, and I think on the new Rogers DynaMatic pedal (both of which I want to try!).They now have a nut on the underside, too.

Posted on 6 years ago
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From 8upwithit

Actually, I did that to keep the threaded rod that the spring hooks into from wobbling, as it did on my pedal. I did the same thing on my Tama Hi-Beat pedals, which have the same arrangement with the upward-facing spring arm as the Swivos and Supreme pedals. By the way, that issue has been addressed on the new Tama Classic pedal, and I think on the new Rogers DynaMatic pedal (both of which I want to try!).They now have a nut on the underside, too.

They do indeed! BOTH look quite promising! Thing for me though, my Swivo's are flawless, thus I don't really "need" a NEW pedal. Still ... GREAT to see this design being tweaked and brought into the future! I hear you on the slight "wobble" back and forth ... mine does too of course. Never been an issue though, fortunately! ... just part of that older design! :)

Tommyp

Posted on 6 years ago
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From Tommyp

They do indeed! BOTH look quite promising! Thing for me though, my Swivo's are flawless, thus I don't really "need" a NEW pedal. Still ... GREAT to see this design being tweaked and brought into the future! I hear you on the slight "wobble" back and forth ... mine does too of course. Never been an issue though, fortunately! ... just part of that older design! :) Tommyp

I know....I don't "need" another pedal either (or snare drum, etc...;-), it's just my curiosity.

Posted on 6 years ago
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Anybody have a good-working Swivo for sale?......marko

Posted on 6 years ago
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From marko52

Anybody have a good-working Swivo for sale?......marko

Marko, I have a first generation model that is complete, in excellent working condition and cosmetically clean. Make me an offer bro and it's yours. I don't use it very often. I've been switching between an old Slingerland solid/straight-board pedal and my trusty Speedking, the Rogers pedal is just collecting dust. If you want it PM me.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 6 years ago
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From 8upwithit

I know....I don't "need" another pedal either (or snare drum, etc...;-), it's just my curiosity.

Ya!... “need” in quotes, because of course we do!!! :)

Tommyp

Posted on 6 years ago
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