Very common for Rogers.

That combination of Dayton/Fullerton is extremely common ... as would Cleveland/Dayton.

Where it gets confusing is if there is a Covington built drum with a Dayton tag in a set with a Fullerton tagged drum ... that would be slightly odd ... not impossible but far less likely that the drums were born together.

A zolatone painted interior drum with a Dayton tag with a zolatone Fullerton drum is extremely common.

That would mean the Dayton tagged drum was assembled in Dayton ... and drums were only assembled in Dayton for a very short period of time before packing up and moving to Fullerton.

I was told by employees who worked at all 3 locations that there were most likely even Dayton tags that made it to Fullerton and got put on drums before the first Fullerton tags were available which will be the tags without a border... later the border returned... but the early Fullerton 1969 tags are borderless.

The timeline looks something like this.

53-68 Covington

All Cleveland tagged drums were built in covington. (the exception would be a left over cross out tag that made it's way to Dayton or even Fullerton. rare but it has happened)

Dayton tagged drums from 66-68 will also be Covington built.

CBS purchased Rogers in April of 66 and moved the business headquarters to Dayton so the tags will say Dayton shortly after that purchase.

Production stayed in Covington until 68

In the summer of 1968 CBS moved assembly from Covington to Dayton where you start to see the zolatone interior.

Production remained in Dayton from the summer of 68 into the around spring/early summer of 69 when everything was packed into semi trucks and moved to the Fender facility in Fullerton California.

You can see how the mixing of tags would take place just by reading that timeline.

Is the Tower tag on the snare?

It would not be super common to have a random Tower tom or a Tower bass drum on a born together set with Holiday drums... but would not be uncommon to have a Tower snare drum with a Holiday set.

Confusing enough ?

;)

Gvdadrummasum has nailed it - confusing!

I learned something though. My prior understanding was that all contruction/assembly took place either in Covington, OH or later in Fullerton, CA and that the labels for Cleveland and Dayton only represented the warehouse/business office locations in Ohio. That some of the assembly had taken place in Dayton was a new twist in the confusion for me.

To be sure you have a set that was all together from the outset nearly requires that you know the person who originally purchased the drums because so many pieces have been swapped-out (16's for 14's/snares for other snares, damaged drum for a better one, etc., etc). Because of close serial numbers and same city locations on the labels, I have a couple of sets I'd be pretty sure about, but even sets I have that look to have been all together from day one are not assumed to be such.

Buying from the original owner should give you the security you want and the labels just end up being what they are - confusing but interesting as well. In the final analysis, it does have some bearing on value because some collectors want a born-together set, period. Even so, a really good match of drums in very good condition is not something to be shunned. It can still be enjoyed a great deal even if the provenance is not clear. It will simply prove to be less interesting to serious collectors.

Thanks all, for the replies. I don't know a lot of specifics about these drums yet, because I won't get to see them until next Wednesday, when I'm meeting the original owner to do the deal. The set was advertised on craigslist, and once we settled on a price, he took the ad down, so I can't reference it anymore. He told me his father bought the set complete for him when he was a teenager. The seller is pretty knowledgeable about the drums. I'm getting a very good deal on a vintage Rogers set, 24/12/13/16.

I am very happy to find a big bass drum Rogers set, because so many of them feature 20" bass drums, which I don't want.

Did Rogers make a standard set with those sizes, or do you think they were pieced together at the music store from which they were purchased?

Here's a photo of the drums.

That is a Fullerton era Londoner outfit.

or it was a Starlighter and someone added the center mount.

Cannot see if there is a knobby on the other side ... but if there is the center mount was added later... which very well could be the case because if you notice the badge on the 13 is on the inside which is usually a giveaway of an added drum.

The bass drum hoops are not original.

Everything else looks to be ok... cannot see the floor tom though.

You have both machined collet noses and cast collet noses.

I recommend getting yourself either some original or reproduction machined collet noses for that dual tom mount ... those cast noses are trash.

They will crack and not hold.

Rogers did make 24” bass drums. That’s what Buddy Rich used. You don’t see many in the era of Swiv-o-matic mounts so do measure it when you arrive.

Agree with Gvdadrummasum that drums have been modified (probably outside the factory snd bass drum hoops are not original. All from that era had wood hoops.

From what I can see, the drums have not been modified at all. The metal hoops have been on there for years, because the original owner split one of the original ones, and all he could find at the time were those metal hoops. He's giving me the original hoops, which need restoration and new inlay strips, an easy fix.

After looking online, Rogers made Londoner kits with a 12/13/16/24 configuration in Fullerton.

Good Luck. Love the wrap and the hardware