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Rivet Holes

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Why do people put rivet holes in perfectly good vintage cymbals? I picked up this Avedis, believed to be an Earth ride and it has 4 rivet holes. I think they were added later. Does anyone have any thoughts on whether they are original or added later? Follow the link to see 3 photos of the cymbal.

http://s1187.photobucket.com/albums/z392/ThatWasNow/

Posted on 13 years ago
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Looks like an Earth Ride to me.

I had one for a day or two... it had no holes.

Kevin
Posted on 13 years ago
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I have not found a way to get a good sizzle sound without having actual rivets. I have a promark sizzle and it is not quite as smooth. I have tried taping dimes to a cymbal and it worked pretty well. Once I saw Duke Ellingtons nephew, (I believe his name is Steve) playing drums. He had these cool little things that he stuck onto the cymbal stand up near the felt. They looked like little wires that had small metal cups on the ends and they would dangle on top of the cymbal. Those sounded cool.

To answer your question, it's hard to get a good sound without drilling.

Anyone out there have any other recommendations for not drilling?

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Posted on 13 years ago
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I have never found anything as smooth as rivets, either.

That cymbal looks so dry the rivets may have added desired sustain.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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I am going to slap some rivets in her since the holes are there and I am sure it will sound cool. ...but I wouldn't drill in a nice expensive cymbal. I would probably buy a Wuhan and drill on it or string metal beads off a nice cymbal.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Oh yea, no lathing and you are right, it sounds very dry.

Posted on 13 years ago
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From skinnison

I have not found a way to get a good sizzle sound without having actual rivets. I have a promark sizzle and it is not quite as smooth. I have tried taping dimes to a cymbal and it worked pretty well. Once I saw Duke Ellingtons nephew, (I believe his name is Steve) playing drums. He had these cool little things that he stuck onto the cymbal stand up near the felt. They looked like little wires that had small metal cups on the ends and they would dangle on top of the cymbal. Those sounded cool.To answer your question, it's hard to get a good sound without drilling.Anyone out there have any other recommendations for not drilling?

I think I saw some on www.drumfactorydirect.com the "spider type that you mount on top of the bolt and they spread across the cymbals and you can flip them up and down and adjust them to any amount of contact to make a light to very heavy sizzle. Anyway, go to the site and if you can't readily find it, call and ask, they will get you hooked up. I cannot remember for the life of me what they are called, but if you tell them it is a cymbal sizzle that attaches to the stand and is adjustable for different sizes they should be able to get to the right part.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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I am going to slap some rivets in her since the holes are there and I am sure it will sound cool. ...but I wouldn't drill in a nice expensive cymbal. I would probably buy a Wuhan and drill on it or string metal beads off a nice cymbal.

Here is a link for some really good rivets.

http://www.drumfactorydirect.com/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=sizzle

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
http://www.youtube.com/user/karstenboy
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Coffee...16613138379603
Posted on 13 years ago
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A. Zildjian normally put 6 rivets in their cymbals.

Turkish K's had 8

Paiste doesn't believe in rivets too much,but when they do,it is 4.........

at 3,6,9,12 o'clock.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Look at this pic, the ride has one of those neat little sizzlers on it. That is what I am trying to describe to you.

http://vintagedrumforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23414&d=1291499210

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
http://www.youtube.com/user/karstenboy
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Coffee...16613138379603
Posted on 13 years ago
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