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removing old enamel stains from maple exterior

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Hi,

I recently aquired an old tenor drum that had at some point had had an attempt to remove all it's blue enamel paint made upon it. With thoughts of producing a natural wood grain finish I've been sanding the surface with 120 grit which has removed the vast bulk of the left over paint and removed the deep scratches that had been made in the drum. There are still little spots, mainly low spots that have little bits of the enamel in them and sanding sems to just "burn" them in. I do regret sanding the drum because it has removed the ageing colouration, but I hope to restore that with a stain.

My question is- what is the best way to get rid of those last little bits of enamel; continue sanding, or will I risk going through the veneer? Or is there a better way?

Also: the surface is kind of grubby in some areas while perfectly clean in others, which gives a patchy appearance, maybe because of moisture absorbed over time, probably just dirty? is there a way to get a nice consistently clean surface? Carfully with a cloth with minimum soapy water crossed my mind but I wouldn't want to do any damage. Any suggstions?

Thanks,

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Posted on 9 years ago
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Try denatured alcohol on a course sponge...If that don`t work nail polish remover.

Make sure sponges are new or very cleaned out and wont bleed. Yellow sponge don`t bleed. The alcohol first.

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Posted on 9 years ago
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Hey thanks,

Unfortunately niether really worked Oddball, but I have put in some more sanding which is making improvements but I'm still wondering if it will ever be good enough for a stain. I'm pretty sure staining will enhance any blemishes rather than hide them? What do the expert eyes think? How would a lighter teak type of stain come up judging from the pics?

I'm thinking of going ahead with a stain, I've probably put in about 4 or 5 hours of careful sanding over the past week, and it feel like its geting to the point of diminishing returns re time and effort vs. improvement. It doesn't have to be perfect, after all it is an old drum and it will be nice for it to have some character.

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Posted on 9 years ago
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I have been here before, very hard to get all of the paint out of the grain sometimes. You could try some liquid stripper and a stiff toothbrush, it might work but I have done it and it did not work. Personally I think the shell will be nice if you have to stain it the way it is. The lighter the color the more that blue will show through so I would use a darker stain if it was me. You have done a very good job on it so far, the wild grain pattern should take your eyes away from noticing the blue that is left over. Good luck and keep the progress pics coming please.


Thank you!
Jeff C

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Posted on 9 years ago
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Hey thanks Jeff C. Agreed with the dark concept. I am a little nervous with this project as I have not taken a resto to the stage of sanding a shell before, especially given the shell is eighty years old. So encouragement appreciated.

I won't fuss too much over the areas that will be covered by hoops but will still try and get them nice. The underside as it will b a bass drum has been a good testing area and has turned out nicer than the top mainly because it had less damage I think. But I've learnt I can take the sanding quite far without risk of going through so alot of the little spots that have been made by overenthuseastic paint scraping I think, can eventually be removed- I don't want to push that too far though.

Posted on 9 years ago
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Well, the drum is complete component wise...and now it's together I'm not sure I would want to do anything further on it for now as far as refinishing etc.

It has 30's single tension Ludwig & Ludwig hardware that looks like Ludwigold, and the spurs are 30's Leedy but Ludwig had exactly the same ones, so it's fairly period correct re the components albeit 12x18 bebop size bass drums were pretty much unheard of then as far as I know.

The drum sounds fantastic too, one of the nicest if not the nicest I've played, I cant wait to hear it everytime it's coming up in a phrase or whatever.

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Posted on 8 years ago
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That is one super awesome drum! SO the hoops look like raw wood but the shell does not, did you varnish it or something? Excellent job!


Thank you!
Jeff C

"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
Posted on 8 years ago
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Hi Jeff,

No that is just the natural aged maple on the shell and I've had new maple hoops made until, if ever I find period correct ones. All the wood is raw at the moment so, well 'yes' it might be a good idea to protect it with something, but for now I just want to enjoy it for a while as is. thanks for the compliments, yeah isn't it a great drum? :)

Highly temping to complete it as a kit somehow, as matching as possible.

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Posted on 8 years ago
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Looks great. Really like the look of the natural shell color too. Very classy.

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 8 years ago
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Hi Jeff,No that is just the natural aged maple on the shell and I've had new maple hoops made until, if ever I find period correct ones. All the wood is raw at the moment so, well 'yes' it might be a good idea to protect it with something, but for now I just want to enjoy it for a while as is. thanks for the compliments, yeah isn't it a great drum? :)Highly temping to complete it as a kit somehow, as matching as possible.

I thought that is what you said, maybe some oil to protect the wood, it would look great I think. And ya dude, building a kit from that drum would be fun and very rewarding. Again nice job!


Thank you!
Jeff C

"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
Posted on 8 years ago
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