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Here are some photos of a snare drum that I just bought. I'm guessing it could be Sonor, Trixon or similar? Can anybody identify what make this snare drum is?

Thanks in advance.

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Posted on 10 years ago
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Slotted T rods and those lugs make me think Premier but it's just different enough that maybe not....pretty sure it is European in origin though.

Posted on 10 years ago
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From K.O.

Slotted T rods and those lugs make me think Premier but it's just different enough that maybe not....pretty sure it is European in origin though.

Thanks K.O, I think you could be onto something. The tension rods are slotted which narrows it down a bit. We can assume it's European. The lugs are Premier style. I never saw those lugs until now and I searched the web for vintage Premier lugs and I saw these lugs, but I have never seen a Premier drum with these lugs in this side-by-side configuration. I would think with those wires that it might be a Premier Royal Ace, but I've never seen a Royal Ace with these lugs. I'll let you know more when I get the drum. Thanks for your thoughts on this.

Posted on 10 years ago
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Definitely NOT a Premier product. Just look at the state of the chrome! Premier's chrome was always superb, and holds up much better that that!

My bet is German (not Sonor), French or possibly early Japanese......

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From Ludwig-dude

Definitely NOT a Premier product. Just look at the state of the chrome! Premier's chrome was always superb, and holds up much better that that!My bet is German (not Sonor), French or possibly early Japanese......

Do you know what I think it is? I think that these lugs were never on this shell and the shell was drilled. If you look carefully at the photos you can see drill holes above some of the lugs. The strainer interests me. It seems like 1950's 60's. I would assume German as I bought it from German eBay, but it's anyone's guess. Either way it's good value for what I paid for it - around 50 US dollars after shipping. No complaints!

Posted on 10 years ago
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To me it looks like an old LEFIMA Snaredrum!

regards

Christian

Posted on 10 years ago
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Congrats!

This is a gorgeous Dutch snare -- Van Der Glas.

Today they still in buisiness as Majestic - http://www.majestic-percussion.com/

Cheers,

George.

Posted on 10 years ago
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George is pretty close, it's Dutch

However, I think it's Royal (made in Amsterdam) in stead of Van Der Glas.

I get the confusing with Van Der Glas as they kind of copied many features from the Royal snare in those days. But with some small dissimilarities.

The hoops are typical for Royal regarding the kind of "squared ear" where the tension rod sits. The slotted tension rods are also typical for Royal, Van Der Glas had slotted ones that were rounded. The snare mechanism has some relief on the side (Royal), that is absent at Van Der Glas snare (see i.e., http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=13469 ). However, the snares and there attachment to the snare mechanism parts is more Van Der Glas than Royal; Royal used single snare wires versus Van Der Glas was using the 2 times 12 strands. Last, Royal produced snares of 6.5inch depth that were 99/100 brass, whereas the 10 / 12/ 14 inch deep snares were made of wood. One of the few wooden shallow Royal snares can be found here: http://www.hidehitters.com/snaredrums/snaredrums01.html 3rd from below.

My guess would be that this is an Royal snare, that was converted from a deep marching model into a shallow wooden snare. Lugs resemble Beverley.

What's the diameter? Royal is known for producing metric sizes. So, be aware that your drum can measure 361 / 363mm in stead of 357mm.

Posted on 10 years ago
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From wouter

My guess would be that this is an Royal snare, that was converted from a deep marching model into a shallow wooden snare. Lugs resemble Beverley.

Agree with you, this idea looks quite plausible.

Posted on 10 years ago
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Hoops and parallel-strainer Royal beyond doubt. (@Wouter. I have a COB Royal 14 X 6,5 snare having the 2 X 20 strands and the same strainer mechanism as above.)

Lugs Beverely beyond doubt (or Premier as they were sold in America).

So, it seems you have bought some home-brewn hybrid.

If the pinstripe head fits decently it's probably not metric.

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