For those of you who track such things, this red onyx PowerTone for sale on eBay is an outlier from the Rogers Dating Guide. It has a Cleveland label and a serial number almost to 17xxx.
Outlier PowerTone
Tags went into 18000's.
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Thanks Dan. I do keep track of those numbers, especially the numbers around transition periods to know which hardware should belong on which shells. Ploughman's correct (of course!). Cleveland Powertone labels went up to the 18000 range despite what the popular dating guides show. I haven't identified the lowest Dayton Powertone label yet.
Mike
I believe you will find it in the 15000 range.
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From my somewhat faulty memory, I recall that all of the Ohio-made drums came from the same factory in Covington. I also remember that, when the designation of Cleveland on the tags changed to Dayton, the unused tags were not discarded. Those tags were used. In addition to the city designated on the tags, we have all seen countless Rogers drum tags with model names blacked out, and new names written or typed in. I wouldn't get too hung up on the start and stop numbers for Cleveland and Dayton tagged drums. I can assure you that, when you think you've got those numbers defined, there will be drums that don't fit within those parameters.
Long time lurker just joined this year on the subject of Rogers drums I bought a set of Rogers holiday celebrity kit at a garage sale 22/13/16 amp very very yellowed bread and butter lugs with some hairline cracks tallboy hoops I have been playing on them for a while on live gigsonaregular basis talk about projections plus great tuning range they don't look pretty because of the wrap issue personally I don't mind it's the sound quality enjoy
. I wouldn't get too hung up on the start and stop numbers for Cleveland and Dayton tagged drums. I can assure you that, when you think you've got those numbers defined, there will be drums that don't fit within those parameters.
How right you are! We do get too hung up on the whole "dating" thing (like it really matters whether your drum was made in 1967 or 1968). I'm more concerned about whether I'm putting the right, period-correct hardware on a shell (tone controls, T-rods, knobbies, etc.). I bought a gray-interior Dayton floor tom online, and when it arrived, it had Fullerton leg knobbies, white-pad tone control, and Big R C-clip beavertails fastened with hex head bolts. What a mish-mash of parts. It was expensive refitting it with the right stuff.
Mike
Hey guys, what does "outlier" refer to. Thanks
Thanks to Mr. Jerry Jenkins
Some Ohio drums were built in Dayton. Some Dayton tag drums were built in Covington.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Thanks Dan. I do keep track of those numbers, especially the numbers around transition periods to know which hardware should belong on which shells. Ploughman's correct (of course!). Cleveland Powertone labels went up to the 18000 range despite what the popular dating guides show. I haven't identified the lowest Dayton Powertone label yet.Mike
What is the lowest serial beavertail Powertone that you have identified so far?
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