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Need ideas on beginner cymbals for jazz

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Hey guys, I have a customer looking to set up a nice, inexpensive set of cymbals that are going to be right sound for jazz. Since he is a jazz pianist by trade and wants to get a set-up to learn jazz drumming. What should he look for in order to keep his costs down? I am going to assume a $100 or less budget (for hi-hats). And I think I can find a reasonable crash, but what about a good, low dollar ride? Remember, this guy is a pianist, not a drummer, but wants to learn jazz drumming to help further his piano styles. This is likely to be a great future kid to look out for.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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The Mid-East cymbals being cleared out by Drum Factory Direct are a possibility:

Mid-East 16" Classic Crash -- $65.92

Mid-East 20" Classic Ride -- $95.92

...or if you want to go big:

Mid-East 22" Classic Ride -- $118.92

They're hand-made, hand-hammered cymbals, produced for Mid-East by an undisclosed Turkish maker. I'm pretty confident they're made by Amedia, and could very well be the same as their Classic line. (Same "Classic" silkscreening on the cymbal in the same typeface.) Below are some YouTube clips -- the top two are of the corresponsing Amedia models, while the 22" is branded as Mid-East:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e-l7Z41WD8]Amedia 16" Classic Medium Crash[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uCttfVpAOg]Amedia 20" Classic Medium Ride[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s8SoFQupQE&feature=player_embedded]Mid-East 22" Classic Ride[/ame]

I have a Mid-East 16" crash and it's a fantastic cymbal. I don't have the standard 20" ride, but I have a 20" Classic crash ride. While its wash is a little wild for my taste when used as a primary ride (which probably isn't too uncommon for a crash ride), it's right up the alley of some jazz guys I know and it makes a kick-*** crash.

Posted on 14 years ago
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if you know where to look..you could get him some vintage A's.

of course you'd have to find the right ones for jazz.

i get them in my store all the time.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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From SkyDog75

The Mid-East cymbals being cleared out by Drum Factory Direct are a possibility: Mid-East 16" Classic Crash -- $65.92Mid-East 20" Classic Ride -- $95.92...or if you want to go big:Mid-East 22" Classic Ride -- $118.92 They're hand-made, hand-hammered cymbals, produced for Mid-East by an undisclosed Turkish maker. I'm pretty confident they're made by Amedia, and could very well be the same as their Classic line. (Same "Classic" silkscreening on the cymbal in the same typeface.) Below are some YouTube clips -- the top two are of the corresponsing Amedia models, while the 22" is branded as Mid-East: Amedia 16" Classic Medium CrashAmedia 20" Classic Medium RideMid-East 22" Classic Ride I have a Mid-East 16" crash and it's a fantastic cymbal. I don't have the standard 20" ride, but I have a 20" Classic crash ride. While its wash is a little wild for my taste when used as a primary ride (which probably isn't too uncommon for a crash ride), it's right up the alley of some jazz guys I know and it makes a kick-*** crash.

Yep, I too have a 16" Mid-East and I love it. I am getting the 20 next,. if I can get it before they are all gone. Then a 22, if I like the 20.

I need something for hi-hats. I like the 15" Dream Bliss hats I just got, nice, clean and light weight, nice dark sound.

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
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http://www.facebook.com/pages/Coffee...16613138379603
Posted on 14 years ago
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That last video was very annoying, and the cymbal, at 3000 grams, is way too heavy, in my opinion to use as a jazz ride. Some players like them heavy, though. A Paiste SC dark ride is that heavy but these aren't in that League. I think the Dream Bliss series might be a good place to look for your friend the piano player. If he's looking for a piano trio type cymbal a 20" would be plenty large. Another option would be to find an 18" that crashes well, and rides well, so he could have a small set of cymbals. I second the "old Avedis" comment as well. Good luck!

Posted on 14 years ago
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