drumfx gave the best advice so far. You WANT the drum to produce a good low fundamental note, not a dead/dry thud. What makes the difference is, if you're playing with a band most of those overtones produced by the bass drum get lost in the mix. If you practice alone, it can sound a little ringy, but that's ok. If the drum is tuned right it'll sound great without any muffling.John
A dry dead thud is ideal when I speed tap with two pedals. Short note is my friend then.
A dry dead thud is ideal when I speed tap with two pedals. Short note is my friend then.
Yep, but that's application specific, generally speaking you want the bass drum to produce a note, not a thud. Depends on personal taste too. I know some guys that kill the resonance on all of their drums because they like that 'Ringo with towels on the kit' sound. Doesn't work well in live music situations, the drummer can sound like he's whacking cardboard boxes if you take muffling too far. Different strokes for different folks... :D
John
Yep, but that's application specific, generally speaking you want the bass drum to produce a note, not a thud. Depends on personal taste too. I know some guys that kill the resonance on all of their drums because they like that 'Ringo with towels on the kit' sound. Doesn't work well in live music situations, the drummer can sound like he's whacking cardboard boxes if you take muffling too far. Different strokes for different folks... :DJohn
Very true.
Round my way, some bands in the 90`s, that`s all they did was speed metal. I did it for a year.
You go to a yard bash, the band plays speed metal all night, by the fifth number, you want the music changed.
For me it`s an easy transition, no tools, just pop the balloons and get rid of the rubber mallet and put a (med. soft) beater on and it`s no mute/short notes, and heavy Metal again.
That big as muffler on the old trap kits did the same thing.
I've kinda gotten to the point where I have no "ultimate solution", just fixes for particular situations. My ideal in a friendly room (as opposed to the deep end of a pool) is much like others: Emad (or other pre-muted type head), ported reso (pre-muted), but with a small folded facecloth against the batter head. I bring 2 so I can dry out the reso head if need be. If/when I play non-ported I just place the folded towel/s on the outside. The one I use is small enough to wedge between pedal and head, out of the way of the beater's end. Btw, this only works with Rogers bass drums :D
I've kinda gotten to the point where I have no "ultimate solution", just fixes for particular situations. My ideal in a friendly room (as opposed to the deep end of a pool) is much like others: Emad (or other pre-muted type head), ported reso (pre-muted), but with a small folded facecloth against the batter head. I bring 2 so I can dry out the reso head if need be. If/when I play non-ported I just place the folded towel/s on the outside. The one I use is small enough to wedge between pedal and head, out of the way of the beater's end. Btw, this only works with Rogers bass drums :D
There is no ideal, ultimate solution. Music is so diverse but yet it is one thing everyone anywhere can do. Like food, it`s good for this guy and no so much for that guy.
Funky, oddball - If you want a mind-blowing experience have somebody play your drums while you go out front and listen to them. What we hear behind the kit can be so much different from what the people are hearing out front. And how you tune, or muffle is all dependent on so many variables beginning with the size drums you're using, what style of music you're playing, room size and acoustics. Funky is right... no 'ultimate' solutions. Rules are always 'general' and situation specific. You do what you have to do to get the best sound from your instrument in whatever situation you find yourself in. It's what any craftsman does when he's working.
John
Funky, oddball - If you want a mind-blowing experience have somebody play your drums while you go out front and listen to them. What we hear behind the kit can be so much different from what the people are hearing out front. And how you tune, or muffle is all dependent on so many variables beginning with the size drums you're using, what style of music you're playing, room size and acoustics. Funky is right... no 'ultimate' solutions. Rules are always 'general' and situation specific. You do what you have to do to get the best sound from your instrument in whatever situation you find yourself in. It's what any craftsman does when he's working.John
I had my older sister play them as I stood in front,(no mic.) then down the block. They sound killer from down the block, and nothing like sitting behind them as out directly in front of them.
Mine have four big CT`s up and I figured they would sound different in front of them.
That sounds about right, is the Evans reso the EQ1? Have you tried the Powerstroke 3 and compared it to the Super Kick III?
Sorry, just saw this.
The evans reso is the EQ3 coated non ported. Last I checked, they were discontinued.
I installed a Powerstroke 3 on the reso side of another 22" bass drum with SuperKick III batter side, and it's a too controlled, not as resonant sounding as the Superkick/Evans EQ3 combo. (Good for mic's not so for unmiced)
Hope this helps.
