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Mis Matching Hihat combinations..

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Guidance needed here..lol

Have 2 sets of Zildjian 13" hats...

The matching (I'm sure of..!) are early 70s made in Canada ..

740g top with a 835g bottom..

My original "go2" set are a 60s ..

609g top with a early 70s (Canadian) 1030g bottom.

The later...I've been playing for over 7yrs straight...

I tried the 60s top with the 70s 740g bottom...them tried the 835g bottom

I'm I just .."use to my orig" set up or should a hat set be a bigger difference from top 2 bottom...?

Also would the weight difference of 609 top to a 1030 bottom

Be a New Beat combo or..?

Info,ideas..?

Bop iT / Til U Drop iT.

ROGER's
1964 Cleveland,.18/14/12 in WMP
1966 Cleveland, 20/14/12 O'natural.
Fullerton,...20/16/13/12 Silver Glass

WFL
1957 B/R Super Classics In WMP

Snares..
Wood & COB Powertones,
Wood & COB Dynasonics,
57 Jazz Festival

Zildjian avedis cymbals.
40s/60s era.
Posted on 9 years ago
#1
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New Beat weight ratios are usually right around 70 percent top to bottom. Mis match hats are fun to mess with. Go with what suits your ears. Sometimes the answer is certainly unconventional weights and sometimes not.

Mike

Posted on 9 years ago
#2
Posts: 2148 Threads: 177

Thxs again..

The 609 to 1030 seems to wrk for me...

Bop iT / Til U Drop iT.

ROGER's
1964 Cleveland,.18/14/12 in WMP
1966 Cleveland, 20/14/12 O'natural.
Fullerton,...20/16/13/12 Silver Glass

WFL
1957 B/R Super Classics In WMP

Snares..
Wood & COB Powertones,
Wood & COB Dynasonics,
57 Jazz Festival

Zildjian avedis cymbals.
40s/60s era.
Posted on 9 years ago
#3
Posts: 5550 Threads: 576

I have had great success with mismatching hats and have sold quite a few that way enjoy the different sounds you can get

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 9 years ago
#4
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Even cheap line models work well for bottoms - so long as they are thick. The thinner good quality cymbals are harder to find - but then again - sometimes the cheaper thinner tops come to life with a high quality heavier bottom. Sometimes the results are magical.

Swapping HHs are a really fun time - and it is not hard to discover some unique and amazing results.

My favorite cheap bottom is a green label Pearl CX-500 bottom from the 80s. It seems to add wash to just about anything that sits on top of it.

I had a great day! Instead of sleeping in and wasting the day, I got up at 8 and I had all my slacking done by noon!

2Timothy1:7
Posted on 9 years ago
#5
Posts: 2413 Threads: 336

Even cheap line models work well for bottoms - so long as they are thick. The thinner good quality cymbals are harder to find - but then again - sometimes the cheaper thinner tops come to life with a high quality heavier bottom. Sometimes the results are magical.

Swapping HHs are a really fun time - and it is not hard to discover some unique and amazing results.

My favorite cheap bottom is a green label Pearl CX-500 bottom from the 80s. It seems to add wash to just about anything that sits on top of it.

I had a great day! Instead of sleeping in and wasting the day, I got up at 8 and I had all my slacking done by noon!

2Timothy1:7
Posted on 9 years ago
#6
Posts: 1344 Threads: 172

I play similar weight mismatched (mishmash) hats; Super-Zyn 650 (ish) gram over Zildjian pre New Beat 1020 gram

I also use a Super-Zyn 16" over a Zildjian Avedis 16". Not sure of the weights, but they're a medium thin over a medium.

Posted on 9 years ago
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