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MIJ set available on Reverb/Bently's Drum Sop for $299 plus a reasonable shipping fee of $100. Rare name in my recollection. Cool little 20, 12, 14, 5-1/2x14 if you have a few spare rims/hoops/rods laying about.

Kenwood - Got any Captain's?

https://reverb.com/item/49326627-captain-vintage-mij-12-14-20-14-snare-drum-set-kit-red-sparkle

Posted on 2 years ago
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I have never seen that badge before...I need one for my collection...Anyone?

Cheers

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Posted on 2 years ago
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What a cool MIJ kit! I noticed they are called "Capitan" and not "Captain". Still, it's a stencil name I've not heard before!

This was built by Pearl and the Rogers-style tone control date the set to about 1968, which was the only year this style of tone control was used. Maybe Rogers put a stop to it!

-Mark

Posted on 2 years ago
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I found the exact set in the 1968 Pearl catalog. It's the No. 45 Challenger Outfit. Very cool!

-Mark

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Posted on 2 years ago
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Eh, the money is better spent on a quality snare or kit. MIJ's look neat .. until you play them! :)

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Posted on 2 years ago
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From larryz

Eh, the money is better spent on a quality snare or kit. MIJ's look neat .. until you play them! :)

It can certainly take some work, and $$$, to make them sound good! The other issue with this kit is the missing tension rods and hoops. The rods are metric and can be difficult to source. And, I believe the floor tom uses a 6-lug hoop, which is easy to find. Still, if you have the parts, and just have to have this set, it's a reasonable price.

-Mark

Posted on 2 years ago
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The best way to transport these drums is in your Yugo.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
Posted on 2 years ago
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From idrum4fun

What a cool MIJ kit! I noticed they are called "Capitan" and not "Captain". Still, it's a stencil name I've not heard before!This was built by Pearl and the Rogers-style tone control date the set to about 1968, which was the only year this style of tone control was used. Maybe Rogers put a stop to it!-Mark

I missed the Capitan. I was looking at the seller's title and didn't focus on the badge itself. Good catch! And on the tone control, that does look like a major patent infringement unless they paid to used it (doubtful). I note the capture screw against the arm is currently installed backwards but even that screw is a total rip off of the Rogers unit.

I agree it is a very cool kit and very tempting. However, we are about to sell out of northern FL and head further south and there's no room here for anything extra.

Posted on 2 years ago
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From larryz

Eh, the money is better spent on a quality snare or kit. MIJ's look neat .. until you play them! :)

At one level, I have to disagree. My first kit was a LaBoz MIJ in the mid/late 60's. I never had any serious difficulty tuning it. The rail setup wasn't great, as Kenwood has also mentioned in the past. I also had a Stewart in the 90's that was the same in sizes as this Capitan kit and it sounded very good without any modifications. As I recall it, the only variance would have been the wrap and badges, though I'm not sure it had a center ring in the bass drum. The LaBoz did have that feature. I think it depended on what company built the drums and into what price range they were selling them.

The point Mark makes about hard to find parts is definitely an issue if you want to put the kit back to as good and correct condition as possible it will be a treasure hunt and might not be inexpensive.

Posted on 2 years ago
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I would also have to agree with Dan about how these drums can sound. As proof, I present another Pearl-made Whitehall set I had some years ago. Also built in 1968 with thin 3-ply shells with "hardwood" re-rings and Rogers-style tone controls. The only shell mods I performed were to smooth the bearing edges to remove any roughness. The set sounded great! I eventually sold them on eBay to John "Bermuda" Shwartz, drummer for Weird Al Yankovic! He came out to my house to pick them up! A great drummer and a really nice guy! Bermuda liked them, so they couldn't sound that bad!! LoLoLoLo

-Mark

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