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Ludwig Vistalite vaues by color

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I’ve seen many comments addressing the values of ‘70s Ludwig Vistalites based on the color. They say that the clear were made in larger quantities, so they are less valuable.

Do you agree with that assessment, and if so, what premium (by percentage) do you feel there should be for the other colors?

In other words, all other things being equal, what percentage premium over the clear price would you assign to the other colors? (Solid pattern only)

Dealing only with the solids, if the clear is most common and the blue next, is the blue worth 5% more than the clear? 10%?

And if the yellow is rare, is it 50% more valuable?, or a 100%?

I'm not looking for a firm quote, just some opinions.

My kit:
Ludwig Vistalite Big Beat set consisting of:
14” X 22” bass, 16” X 16” floor tom, 8” X 12” ride tom, 9” X 13” ride tom, 5” X 14” snare
Ludwig 201 Speed King bass drum pedal
Ludwig 1124 Spur-lok hit-hat with Ludwig Standard Paiste 14” cymbals (760 & 770 gr) with ching-ring
Two Ludwig Standard S-270 cymbals stands
18” Zildjian crash cymbal (1550 gr) and 20” Zildjian ride cymbal (2130 gr) with CAMCO sizzler
Gibraltar motorcycle seat-style drum throne with backrest
Posted on 13 years ago
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You really can't assign any 'general' values. Each and every kit has to be taken on a case by case basis. For instance, a super clean and original clear kit will bring more, than any 'scratched to hell' ruby kit. The ruby is the more desirable color, but 'condition' is everything. Drum sets vary wildly in the condition you may find them in. That factor, condition, more than color, or anything else, determines value. That, and how much someone is willing to pay for them.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 13 years ago
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From Purdie Shuffle

You really can't assign any 'general' values. Each and every kit has to be taken on a case by case basis. For instance, a super clean and original clear kit will bring more, than scratched to hell ruby kit. The ruby is the more desirable color, but 'condition' is everything. Drum sets vary wildly in the condition you may find them in. That factor, condition, more than color or anything else determines value. That, and how much someone is willing to pay for them.John

I understand all that, and you are correct. However, I'm trying to research what value the color adds or subtracts from a baseline.

My kit:
Ludwig Vistalite Big Beat set consisting of:
14” X 22” bass, 16” X 16” floor tom, 8” X 12” ride tom, 9” X 13” ride tom, 5” X 14” snare
Ludwig 201 Speed King bass drum pedal
Ludwig 1124 Spur-lok hit-hat with Ludwig Standard Paiste 14” cymbals (760 & 770 gr) with ching-ring
Two Ludwig Standard S-270 cymbals stands
18” Zildjian crash cymbal (1550 gr) and 20” Zildjian ride cymbal (2130 gr) with CAMCO sizzler
Gibraltar motorcycle seat-style drum throne with backrest
Posted on 13 years ago
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I just bought a clear Vistalite 12-13-16-22 with matching snare for $1,300 plus $100 shipping. Some people think I overpaid; until they are delivered, I can't really agree or disagree. The photos were nice and the money was there, plus the big 5-0 is on the horizon.

But clear is what I wanted and I wouldn't have bothered for any other color, even for less money.

9x Slingerland New Rock 50N 12-13-16-22 with 170 (Super S-O-M) holder
• 1979 Oak
• 1978 Blakrome + 6.5x14 TDR SD
• 1977 Black Diamond Pearl + 5x14 SD (gold badge, Rapid strainer)
• 1976 Black Cordova
• 1975 Silver Sparkle + 5x14 SD (Rapid strainer)
• 1974 Chrome + 5x14 COB TDR and 6.5x14 COW Zoomatic SDs
• 1973 Purple Sparkle
• 1973 Phantom (clear)
• 1971 Walnut (gold badges) + 5x14 TDR SD
1x Rogers Powertone Londoner V 12-13-16-22
• 1972 Butcher Block + 1979 big R Dynasonic SD
Posted on 13 years ago
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This is what i think when it comes to vista's color's..Clear and Blue ae the most common colors..Yellow would be next,then Amber then Red and the rarest color being Green..But when it comes to the pattern's set's color's these would be rarer than the one color set's..Of color's let's say a 5 pc with matching snare in clear say 1,000.00 but let's say same set in Green 2,500.00 same set's in Pattern's say 2,500.00+..So yes i say color and condition plays a part...Mikey

Posted on 13 years ago
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First, I have to disagree with one of the above posters... There are far more amber kits than yellow.

When the Vista line was reintroduced in 2000, prices for most of the Vintage stuff skyrocketed. I remember not being able to touch a 12/13/16/22 green or red kit in nice condition for under $2500. But now that has all died down. I picked up a stellar condition red 12/13/16/22 kit with matching snare for $1250 last year from a drum store in Boston.

The most valuable single color Vista kit is an amber in true Bonham sizes. It will almost always be worth a bunch.

Posted on 13 years ago
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You also have to factor it that people associate the amber color in certain sizes with a certain drummer, so that does something to the value of those kits. Also, people just getting into Vistalites tend to veer towards the clear kits (I had two drum shops tell me this...), so the prices of those are down a touch, due to how often they come around.

1970 Ludwig Downbeat
1965 Ludwig Hollywood
1970 Ludwig Jazzette
Posted on 13 years ago
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