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Ludwig Red Sparkle Find

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Poppy. I have the wrap swatches kit from precision, you want the red sparkle. It will match dead on. This doesn't give you a good indicator. http://www.precisiondrum.com/Red_Sparkle_s.jpg

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Posted on 9 years ago
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It looks like the serial number on the badge on the bass is 922590 and the model number from the label you pictured is 922. That would be the correct model number for a 14x22 bass. The 9x13 is typically model number 944. I cannot read the serial number on the tom badge. Both badges are the earlier version of the Blue/Olive badge without the (R) trademark symbol. Although the exact nature of the Date Code stamped on the label (11717 in your case) is not yet known, they were used in the 1971-72 time frame. That time frame is consistent with the serial number that was readable and the style of badge.

Could you provide the serial number off of the tom please?

Rick

Collecting information about the following for ongoing research projects:
Gretsch drums with serial numbers,
Ludwig Keystone and B/O badge drums with serial numbers and date stamps,
Ludwig Standards from 1968-73, and
Ludwigs with paper labels from 1971-72
www.GretschDrumDatingGuide.com
Posted on 9 years ago
#12
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Here ya go..918855

I have a stack of totally ruined drum shells with pointy B/O badges as well

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 9 years ago
#13
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I would NOT rewrap the acrolite in red sparkle..You will ruin the tone of the drum and it's original and "collectable" state.. Plus gluing a wrap on on aluminum shell is not only annoying and difficult, but impractical..

This is just a suggestion, although i know what i'm talking about since i've rewrapped kits before.. Never tried to wrap over a metal shell snare drum, and i would assume if you haven't either, you will have a difficult time..

Posted on 9 years ago
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I got these about a year ago. totally ruined by water. They were left in the back of a pick up, in their cases in the back yard for years. Through rain, show, texas heat, etc... I gave 200 for all of them. he supra was worth that. Now I may use some of the badges

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 9 years ago
#15
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a few more

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1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 9 years ago
#16
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I don't remember ever saying I was gonna wrap the acro. I have a 16" floor tom and a Luddy standard wood snare shell i plan to wrap in the red sparkle. You don't rewrap a acrolite or a supra, you get it rechromed, like it did to this one check this out >> http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=19111&highlight=acro

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I would NOT rewrap the acrolite in red sparkle..You will ruin the tone of the drum and it's original and "collectable" state.. Plus gluing a wrap on on aluminum shell is not only annoying and difficult, but impractical..This is just a suggestion, although i know what i'm talking about since i've rewrapped kits before.. Never tried to wrap over a metal shell snare drum, and i would assume if you haven't either, you will have a difficult time..

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 9 years ago
#17
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Here's what I do to my ugliest acrolite.

From poppy79424

I don't remember ever saying I was gonna wrap the acro. I have a 16" floor tom and a Luddy standard wood snare shell i plan to wrap in the red sparkle. You don't rewrap a acrolite or a supra, you get it rechromed, like it did to this one check this out >> http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=19111&highlight=acro

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1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 9 years ago
#18
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This is actually the finished product.LQQK and enjoy!

From poppy79424

Here's what I do to my ugliest acrolite.

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1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 9 years ago
#19
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Wow! Very nice.

Creighton

Nothing special here but I like them.
Posted on 9 years ago
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