I think Zim Gar was one mij that used die cast hoops. I remember finding one downtown in a thrift shop.Sidenote- I could bend the die cast hoop with bare hands and very little pressure
jda!
Yes, there were a few stencil brands that had die-cast hoops! I've got some pictures of them, with one still in my collection. Rather than hijack this post, I think it would be fun to start a new thread showing MIJ drums with die-cast hoops. Now, I'll go get those pictures and start the thread!
-Mark
JimmySticks, Mark is a fantastically knowledgeable member of our forum and damned nice guy to boot! I would follow his advice to the letter! I have tried wooden hoops on my late seventies Supra as well as die cast rims. Both are excellent and both emit slightly different nuances. I like the die cast rims, well at least for today! I too love to experiment just for fun. Who knows? I may go back to the wooden hoops tomorrow. Best of luck in making a choice. Brian
Hey Brian, thanks for the post!
I've learned an awful lot since coming to the forum, and Mark has been very helpful to me on my journey. Even though he is super experienced, he takes the time to help the newbies. And not everyone does, so a big shout out to you Mark!flowers2
Die cast and wood are out. To rich for my blood at 50-80 bucks - each! I don't mind spending money, but that's just to much. So I'll be going with the 2.3mm stick saver hoops that Mark recommended. Stronger and firmer than my triple flange 1.6mm's, and they should have the same effect on sounds, or nearly the same, as the die cast. They should be a nice upgrade in the looks dept. as well.
I'll be ordering them right after the Christmas rush.x-mas3
Die cast and wood are out. To rich for my blood at 50-80 bucks - each! I don't mind spending money, but that's just to much. So I'll be going with the 2.3mm stick saver hoops that Mark recommended. Stronger and firmer than my triple flange 1.6mm's, and they should have the same effect on sounds, or nearly the same, as the die cast. They should be a nice upgrade in the looks dept. as well.I'll be ordering them right after the Christmas rush.x-mas3
Is the Christmas rush over?Coffee Break2
Hoops ordered!Excited :)
And the hoops (and some other goodies!) arrived today! They look awesome and are much heavier and sturdier than the triple flange hoops on the kit now.
I'll put them on tonight, after watching the scintillating Jet - Bills game...:o
So I put the new 2.3mm stick saver hoops on my Norma Kit and I noticed a difference immediately!
Just picking up one of these new hoops and one of my older thinner triple flange hoops, I could tell a pretty substantial difference in weight. Also, the stick saver hoop is much more rigid and solid, not to mention it has a pretty finish on it. It really makes the kit look better and more like a genuine Slingerland. I even saw an improvement in tuning, which was a little sketchy with the old hoops. Even tuning high, which never sounded quite right before, was a snap and sounded great. Sound wise, it makes a pretty big difference as well. Definitely a more focused, solid sound and less resonant in a good way. The toms give a beautiful warm thud, and with the Evans Calftone heads, they have that perfect warm vintage tone.
Overall, this change was worth the money. For about $110, my kit sounds better, looks better, tunes better and it even feels better under the sticks. It feels solid and substantial now, more like a decent vintage American kit. I highly recommend new hoops for your old MIJ kit!
