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Joe Montineri One-Of

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Joe made this for me in the mid 90's in exchange for a custom Telecaster guitar. Color is a modified version of PPG 'French Banner Blue', which is as close as I was able to match my Yamaha Cobalt blue at the time. I did the finish and Joe did the rest.

8 COB tube lugs, COS cheap hoops, piccolo strainer and a very thin maple shell with sharp 45-degree bearing edges. I was told by Joe: "If anyone asks, they can't get one. I don't make drums like this."

Anyway, that was a long time ago, but the drum still looks and sounds great. I recently overhauled it with new heads and Puresound snares, and gave it a much needed cleaning. While I was at it, I put o-rings under the lugs to isolate them from the shell a bit. I'm convinced it did absolutely nothing for the sound of the drum...Cool Dude

I think some cast hoops will dress it up right and probably have an affect on the sound, unlike those o-rings. Enjoy!

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Cobalt Blue Yamaha Recording Custom 20b-22b-8-10-12-13-15-16f-18f
Red Ripple '70's Yamaha D-20 20b-12-14f
Piano Black Yamaha Recording Custom Be-Bop kit 18b-10-14f
Snares:
Yamaha COS SDM5; Yamaha Cobalt Blue RC 5-1/2x14; Gretsch round badge WMP; 1972 Ludwig Acrolite; 1978 Ludwig Super Sensitive; Cobalt Blue one-off Montineri; Yamaha Musashi 6.5X13 Oak; cheap 3.5X13 brass piccolo
Posted on 12 years ago
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Very nice Jim. Is that a solid or ply thin maple shell? Did Joe make his own shells? Don't know much about him sorry but have seen a few kits he made that are beautiful. :)

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 12 years ago
#2
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Thanks!

The shell is from Keller I believe (I don't know that for sure), and six(?) ply I think. About 5/16 thick (from memory).

It is very bright and responsive, which is what I wanted- I asked him to get something close to my Powertone snares, and this is what he did for me.

Although different from a metal shell PowerTone, it has a great crack and very good sensitivity, even when cranked up.

Cobalt Blue Yamaha Recording Custom 20b-22b-8-10-12-13-15-16f-18f
Red Ripple '70's Yamaha D-20 20b-12-14f
Piano Black Yamaha Recording Custom Be-Bop kit 18b-10-14f
Snares:
Yamaha COS SDM5; Yamaha Cobalt Blue RC 5-1/2x14; Gretsch round badge WMP; 1972 Ludwig Acrolite; 1978 Ludwig Super Sensitive; Cobalt Blue one-off Montineri; Yamaha Musashi 6.5X13 Oak; cheap 3.5X13 brass piccolo
Posted on 12 years ago
#3
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J!m/FFR428

Joe uses all Keller shells on his builds, and so much so that Keller hired him on to do R&D which was a salaried position. I remember him making the trip north to NH every week. It was during this time that Joe developed the NEW/OLD Keller vintage shell make-up which was about as close as anyone could come to the old 3 ply/rings shells of old. Those sold very well!... and I believe they still are. Generally speaking...

JM's CUSTOM snare drum's featured an 8 ply all maple shell if there were no re-rings. That's probably what you have J!m. I did have Joe build me a 6X13 6 ply no re-rings with tube lugs and cast hoops for this contemporary jazz gig I was playing at the time. I still have the drum... and it KILLS! What I was looking for with the 6 plies was a little LOWER fundamental, but getting the crack/projection out of the 13" diameter. The cast hoops gave the drum FOCUS and a beautiful cross stick sound. That one is also "one of a kind".

Tommyp

Posted on 12 years ago
#4
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Now I have to Check, Tommy.

I asked for thin shell as well, and it does not have re-rings...

Please stand by while I go look and try to count plies through a hazy ambassador...

Cobalt Blue Yamaha Recording Custom 20b-22b-8-10-12-13-15-16f-18f
Red Ripple '70's Yamaha D-20 20b-12-14f
Piano Black Yamaha Recording Custom Be-Bop kit 18b-10-14f
Snares:
Yamaha COS SDM5; Yamaha Cobalt Blue RC 5-1/2x14; Gretsch round badge WMP; 1972 Ludwig Acrolite; 1978 Ludwig Super Sensitive; Cobalt Blue one-off Montineri; Yamaha Musashi 6.5X13 Oak; cheap 3.5X13 brass piccolo
Posted on 12 years ago
#5
Posts: 1427 Threads: 66

Six plies...

Cobalt Blue Yamaha Recording Custom 20b-22b-8-10-12-13-15-16f-18f
Red Ripple '70's Yamaha D-20 20b-12-14f
Piano Black Yamaha Recording Custom Be-Bop kit 18b-10-14f
Snares:
Yamaha COS SDM5; Yamaha Cobalt Blue RC 5-1/2x14; Gretsch round badge WMP; 1972 Ludwig Acrolite; 1978 Ludwig Super Sensitive; Cobalt Blue one-off Montineri; Yamaha Musashi 6.5X13 Oak; cheap 3.5X13 brass piccolo
Posted on 12 years ago
#6
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From J!m

Six plies...

... and that is RARE for a Montineri Custom snare drum. Joe always maintained that 6 plies didn't have quite enough "wood" to take a lot of tension/higher tunings.. but .. as your drum and mine will attest, not so much the case! On top of all that, I also have the added mass of cast hoops on mine. Never an issue! Joe has come out to hear this drum many times actually, and I still have it too!

Tommyp

Posted on 12 years ago
#7
Posts: 1427 Threads: 66

It looks like you we're the other guy to get the drum Joe doesn't make!

Have you tried yours with triple flange hoops? I'm wondering how cast hoops will alter the sound of mine...

Cobalt Blue Yamaha Recording Custom 20b-22b-8-10-12-13-15-16f-18f
Red Ripple '70's Yamaha D-20 20b-12-14f
Piano Black Yamaha Recording Custom Be-Bop kit 18b-10-14f
Snares:
Yamaha COS SDM5; Yamaha Cobalt Blue RC 5-1/2x14; Gretsch round badge WMP; 1972 Ludwig Acrolite; 1978 Ludwig Super Sensitive; Cobalt Blue one-off Montineri; Yamaha Musashi 6.5X13 Oak; cheap 3.5X13 brass piccolo
Posted on 12 years ago
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