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Is this a jazz fest snare?

Posted on 13 years ago
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If it's not It's doing an awful good Imitation of one!Falling Do

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 13 years ago
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From vintagemore2000

If it's not It's doing an awful good Imitation of one!Falling Do

I believe that's what I might have.

This is not at all what I expected to see.

The serial number of 2057777 dates it to 1980+ (newer than 1980).

The shell looks new and the wrap looks BRAND NEW but the muffler looks 20 years old.

The biggest killer is that the badge grommet is a split grommet and it's a real real bad fit. It doesn't even cover the hole in the badge.

Now, I know craftsmanship was getting worse on a lot of items by the 80's but this looks pure amateur.

The shell looks like a cheapo TKO shell with a sort of beige or off white paint.

It looks like a 4 ply shell.

2 hole P-85 blackface strainer.

I am definitely confused.

EDIT: I just noticed that the badge is glued down.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Wow, that's a let down.

Jeff
Posted on 13 years ago
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Here are a couple pics.

Doesn't look like any Ludwig shell I have ever seen. But then, I am certainly no pro.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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show pics of the entire drum inside and out show the vent hole badge! from the original pic it looked to be a JF but that wasn't a good pic, had I know you were thinking or buying the drum, could of evaluated it better for you.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 13 years ago
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I ran over to George's and Matt felt it was definitely not a Ludwig shell.

Here are some more pics. I'll wait a couple hours to hear from people here before I contact the seller but, I think we have a definite "significantly not as described" item here. LOL

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Posted on 13 years ago
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you can go ahead and file your snad, that Isn't a ludwig jazz fest, have you looked the serial # up to see where the badge is dated at?

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 13 years ago
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The serial number of 2057777 dates it to 1980+ (newer than 1980).

I just looked at this sellers feedback and all of his bad feedback (only 3) are all for selling fake merchandise. The auction says he's not a drummer and knows nothing about drums but I have to wonder. I may ask that he pay return shipping as well. I'm not saying he intentionally defrauded but it looks a little like that.

Posted on 13 years ago
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From KapperDog

The serial number of 2057777 dates it to 1980+ (newer than 1980).I just looked at this sellers feedback and all of his bad feedback (only 3) are all for selling fake merchandise. The auction says he's not a drummer and knows nothing about drums but I have to wonder. I may ask that he pay return shipping as well. I'm not saying he intentionally defrauded but it looks a little like that.

Yeah you want a full and total refund, if that was the correct shell from 1980+ it would be 6 ply and a clear Interior shell not white painted.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 13 years ago
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