It apears to be one! the p-85 strainer looks to be a first generation one from what I can see! do you have any badge pics that aren't backwards and shows the number?, if your having trouble posting pics you can send them to me I'll post them?

I don't have any other pics. I took these with my webcam. I'm close to computer illiterate and that was the best I could do. The engraving is hand written.

Can you remove the top head and look inside the shell, and take pics of this when you can or do or look and see if there is and decals or writing inside the shell? takea look at this link this is a black beauty, does your look like this one? http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/images/ludwig_snaredrums/1978_LUDWIG_SNARES1.jpg but pics will help us all to evaluate what you have better, thanks

I have taken a look for anything distiguishing inside but there is nothing.[Attachment: 21000] It may help to know it came with my six piece ludwig butcher block set. I looked at the images you referred to and my snare looks to be exactly the same. What I don't understand is the odd badge. I've looked very closely at it and it doesn't appear to have been tampered with. This snare is in great shape.

It looks black to me! did the link help you any?

I remember passing on a black beauty with a badge like this, because I wasn't sure about it. I later found out it was a real one.DOHCryBaby

BTW, those hoops don't look original though.

snare looks exactly like the link images. Thanx

Cool, check one more thing on the outside by the tone control knob is there a stamp with BR underneath the round knob when you get a chance post us some pics please.

There are no letters anywhere around the control knob. I will post some pics soon.