Here’s my 22" Intermediate - it displays what I think of as the classic Intermediate dry stick sound:https://youtu.be/Ep_NiFwnj5U
Intermediates have a mid-frequency hole.
Lows. Highs. Check. equals strong clear (isolated even) stick (the well-known 14th century Japanese emperor " Strong Clear SticK"....; ) wait Chang Kai sheck
..Joe
This one is an "Ice Queen":
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eAmffZav0U"]K Zildjian Istanbul intermediate Stamp 22" Vintage Ride cymbal - YouTube[/ame]
Funny, I don’t hear any lack of mid range from that one! To me, it’s got a higher pitched fundamental (probably due to the profile) and a nice clicky stick, and tons of upper mids. Kind of Tony/Bill Stewart-ish.
When I think of icy, I think of crystal highs and punchy lows and no mids. A bit like a nice Paiste or like a dry and heavy 50s A Zildjian.
it's the cup of the Intermediates
Full shaped higher -almost A-like
compared with low wide flat of the old stamp or the low not-so-wide of the New stamp.
Add the flat -usually- relatively to other eras- profile; Mix in the lathe and lathe chatter -present in near every Intermediate- and you have highs and lows and a mid freq hole.
But that's ok . Gives them stick for days in the ride.
Personally- don't like- never liked (had 13s and 14s) - Intermediates for hi hat. Too high..
I gave Intermediates a good chance as hi hats just don't like them there in that spot..
..Joe
Could this possibly be a Tony Williams clone cymbal? It's from the right trademark era, and it's weight is in the right neighborhood...
[img]https://photos.imageevent.com/drumaholic/zildjianarticle/large/TW%20K%2022.jpg[/img]
https://www.ebay.com/itm/224464295831?hash=item34431d5797:g:FeAAAOSwNx1goY~A
And it's already drilled for rivets too.
Type IV 22" at 3072g
Nice fella he sent this soundfile.
https://soundcloud.com/luiedransfield/22-zildjian-k-istanbul-3072-grams/s-5lp0v18hbTl
..Joe
Sounds like a clanger. You see, that the problem with the type IV a and b is that they run hot or cold. And the bad ones really suck I'm sorry to say.
Anyway I have an nice example of what that cymbal should've sounded like, weighing at about 2900 grams.
This is it in musical context:
https://soundcloud.com/user972991703/zildjian-k-istanbul-22-ride
That previously was a demo by the seller. This is a quick example of just the bare-assed naked cymbal being played alone:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TkPL70g8Zi3lvyyc8LRXHBVjc5TqUtEI/view?usp=sharing
