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How to remove wrinkles on wrap?

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Hello.

Anyone has an idea on how to straighten things out on this Pearl Export 1997 bass drum? Any hints on fixing it without any replacements?

I'll take a closer look as soon as I finish the toms restorations and take this baby apart.

Thanks.

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1997 not-quite-vintage fully restored Pearl EX in Red Wine Finish
1965 Slingerland Deluxe Student Model Snare in Red Sparkle Finish. Now that's some vintage...
Posted on 15 years ago
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I'm pretty sure Pearl used tape on those. IF they did, you remove the hardware, carefully pull the wrap off (I can't stress enough the CAREFUL piece to this) up just beyond the point of the wrinkles, and check to see if it can be tensioned (pulled) to lay flat again. If it can, you're home free. If not, you can do the cut and excise method. That is very tough to pull off on this hard plastic, so I would be hesitant to attempt it. If it does lay flat, I would suggest getting some of that red hi-bond tape to strengthen the bond when you place the material back on the shell.

Posted on 15 years ago
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Hello.

mmmm...I gotta check the bass drum for the tape...I have a tom in front of me and tried to see if that was tape underneath the wrap...couldn't answer precisely. Since I never saw the tape used for glueing this, I am not sure on what tho expect, but even using lens (didn't want to remove the wrap on the tom) couldn't see any tape...How thick is that tape? Maybe the bass drum uses it? I'll get to that when disassemble the bass. Better.

Thanks for the hint.

1997 not-quite-vintage fully restored Pearl EX in Red Wine Finish
1965 Slingerland Deluxe Student Model Snare in Red Sparkle Finish. Now that's some vintage...
Posted on 15 years ago
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From mcjnic

I'm pretty sure Pearl used tape on those. IF they did, you remove the hardware, carefully pull the wrap off (I can't stress enough the CAREFUL piece to this) up just beyond the point of the wrinkles, and check to see if it can be tensioned (pulled) to lay flat again. If it can, you're home free. If not, you can do the cut and excise method. That is very tough to pull off on this hard plastic, so I would be hesitant to attempt it. If it does lay flat, I would suggest getting some of that red hi-bond tape to strengthen the bond when you place the material back on the shell.

Hello Mcjnic.

I finally reached the bass drum stage. Having found a small bubble in one of my tons I was able to recover it great, thanks to my model airplane covering techniques, a heat gun and a freezing spray...but with the bass drum the wrinkles are bigger and wider....tried there with some good and some messy results at the same time... :(

What exactly means "cut and excise"...just do an axial cut on the wrinkle and then remove the excess, gluing it back?

Another question...I really tought of even ordering only a drum wrap for this bass drum...but I guess I will not be able to match the whole thing, not to mention that Pearl Exports are not a very common drum within USA and therefore the "red wine" wrap she uses is not common also...

Any other hints?

I'll probably just wax it and cry a little bit until the hardware dries from the acid bath to reassemble it.. :|

Thanks for the tips anyway!

1997 not-quite-vintage fully restored Pearl EX in Red Wine Finish
1965 Slingerland Deluxe Student Model Snare in Red Sparkle Finish. Now that's some vintage...
Posted on 15 years ago
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You should be able to get very close on the wrap. But with gloss solid color wraps you are in the least expensive category so it would not be too much more to do the whole kit. Then you don't have to worry about an exact color match and the condition will be similar. That would be my approach.

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From the_drum_dad

You should be able to get very close on the wrap. But with gloss solid color wraps you are in the least expensive category so it would not be too much more to do the whole kit. Then you don't have to worry about an exact color match and the condition will be similar. That would be my approach.

You're right. I'm asking for some samples, let's see how they match.

PS: oh...anyone here ever saw or tried those EZ Wraps at Ebay??? Sure they probably do not match the original drum wraps (they are thinner and supposed to be applied over OLD wrap - which is normally not the best thing), but was wondering what people say of it.

Thanks.

Jeffo.

1997 not-quite-vintage fully restored Pearl EX in Red Wine Finish
1965 Slingerland Deluxe Student Model Snare in Red Sparkle Finish. Now that's some vintage...
Posted on 15 years ago
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There are some discussions in this forum on those. The issue with you using them is they are thin and would just coat the wrinkles. The problem would remain.

Your best bet would be to work that wrinkle out. It takes time to undo the memory of the bend in the plastic, but it can be done.

You are correct in assuming what the excise method is. That's a LAST resort. It is very difficult to do well.

Once you get the wrap to begin to sit down again, you will want to secure it to the shell AT THAT EXACT point with some glue or hi-bond tape. That will help the wrap to stay down.

Sometimes the wrap can stretch from being pulled at a wrinkle spot for so long that you are forced to either excise it or pull the wrap off and replace it. Bummer.

As the DrumDad mentioned, those solid colors are cheap and an entire kit can be wrapped for less than just the bass drum of a high end wrap. Not a bad option. You can even pump up a different color and sit behind a "new" kit. Could be a good thing.

Posted on 15 years ago
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From mcjnic

There are some discussions in this forum on those. The issue with you using them is they are thin and would just coat the wrinkles. The problem would remain.Your best bet would be to work that wrinkle out. It takes time to undo the memory of the bend in the plastic, but it can be done. You are correct in assuming what the excise method is. That's a LAST resort. It is very difficult to do well. Once you get the wrap to begin to sit down again, you will want to secure it to the shell AT THAT EXACT point with some glue or hi-bond tape. That will help the wrap to stay down. Sometimes the wrap can stretch from being pulled at a wrinkle spot for so long that you are forced to either excise it or pull the wrap off and replace it. Bummer.As the DrumDad mentioned, those solid colors are cheap and an entire kit can be wrapped for less than just the bass drum of a high end wrap. Not a bad option. You can even pump up a different color and sit behind a "new" kit. Could be a good thing.

Good points.

The problem is that I am not feeling confortable in removing the old wrap. Tried carefully and slowly to remove, beggining at the overlapping end...chipped the tip...did not like what happened. It seems to be very well glued, at least on the tips. Probably the middle is loose, as you said.

The heat work on it is making the wrinkle spread. Actually it growed 50% bigger and every time I look at it it mades want to order the whole Kit thing. It's a pitty shipping costs to here are almost the same as the wrap... : (

But it is a good idea...will have a new kit that way...thinking deeper...but will need to remove the wrinkles or (worse) the drum wrap...

Would you have any detailed advice on working those wrinkles out? If you prefer you can PM'me.

Thanks again.

Jeffo.

1997 not-quite-vintage fully restored Pearl EX in Red Wine Finish
1965 Slingerland Deluxe Student Model Snare in Red Sparkle Finish. Now that's some vintage...
Posted on 15 years ago
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Posted on 15 years ago
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From GoneDrumming

Botox...hehe

WRAP...I said...wraaaap.... :))))))))

mmm...will take a deeper look into my wife's cabinet....

1997 not-quite-vintage fully restored Pearl EX in Red Wine Finish
1965 Slingerland Deluxe Student Model Snare in Red Sparkle Finish. Now that's some vintage...
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