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How do you identify Drum Rims?

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Good morning guys,

I have noticed 100's of times when someone is asking for drum identifacation, that you guys can spot a non original rim in nothin' flat. I have restored several kits now and have replaced the originall rims with new a few times, but I alway keep the old rims. If I do ever sell one of my kits I would like to include the original rims to the buyer, or I may put them back on the kit they came off of. All my restored kits are Ludwig with the exception of my 60's Sonor tear drops, but those rims are very easy to identify, I also have a few slingy snares with the stick savers, which again are easy to identify. The luddys however have what looks to me like any other chrome rim. I have studied the drum hardware section on the forum already. maybe im just getting blind in my old age! Help2

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 14 years ago
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Rogers rims have a unique shoulder bend at the lug hole.

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 14 years ago
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It's all in the details-Take a few known rims and put them side by side.Thickness,flange shape,hole shape-almost every in-house rim is slightly different.Ludwig seemed to have a thin rim with a very unique "contour" to the area between the flanges.Pearls had a unique hole shape.Etc,Etc-

Posted on 14 years ago
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Well I knew you'd definatly know about the Rogers! LoLoLoLo

From The Ploughman

Rogers rims have a unique shoulder bend at the lug hole.

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 14 years ago
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