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Help with value of my Ludwig Set

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Hi

New to the forum and am thinking of selling my vintage Ludwig set but unsure of the value. Thinking of going electronic.

From what I can tell I have a 1964 Super Classic set.

Number on the badges:

13" tomtom 80889

16" Floor tom 5492

22" base drum - no number on badge

Snare is a 1955 WFL Buddy Rich Classic

Cymbals

Zildjian ride 20"

Ludwig Paiste 14" High Hat

Zildjian 16 Light crash (bought ~10 years ago)

Can anyone help me with what I should ask and best way to sell?

Thanks

Jim

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Posted on 6 years ago
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Welcome very nice kit who knows any more you guess is as good as mine the way the market is

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 6 years ago
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From jgm911t

HiNew to the forum and am thinking of selling my vintage Ludwig set but unsure of the value. Thinking of going electronic.From what I can tell I have a 1964 Super Classic set.Number on the badges:13" tomtom 8088916" Floor tom 549222" base drum - no number on badgeSnare is a 1955 WFL Buddy Rich ClassicCymbalsZildjian ride 20"Ludwig Paiste 14" High Hat Zildjian 16 Light crash (bought ~10 years ago)Can anyone help me with what I should ask and best way to sell?ThanksJim

The lugs are incorrect for your 9x13 "Super Classic" tom. It's a Club Date tom which I believe were mostly sold with a lacquer finish, but were also available in pearl wraps. Clearly this was a set put together piece by piece You have a 1955 WFL snare, a circa 1963 floor tom based on the serial #, a pre-serial 1961-1963 bass drum and a Club Date tom tom. Because of the small tom its not really a complete Super Classic set. I have no idea of value, and its hard to gauge condition based on the photos you provided. However, I'm guessing it will likely be less than a complete 4 piece Super Classic set. I have a 1962 Super Classic set in WMP. I can only speak for myself, but if I was in the market for another one, the incorrect mounted tom would be enough for me to pass it by, regardless of the condition, unless the price was low enough and I was sure I could find a suitable replacement tom in WMP.

Mark
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Posted on 6 years ago
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My guess would be that a drum student put this set together one piece at a time as he progressed as a drummer and/or could afford additional drums ( or perhaps his parents gave him a new piece every year for Christmas). This was pretty commonly done and the sequence of the age of these drums reinforces that theory. Start out with a snare, add a bass drum, add a small tom ( opting to save a few bucks by getting the club date version) and finally adding the floor tom. Not a "born together" set but not really pieced together out of orphans either. This probably does effect the value a bit since the higher end buyers will probably be turned off by that aspect but still it's a nice set of vintage drums.

I actually think the center lug tom looks kind of cool on a vintage wmp like this ( it's the same shell as a double lugged drum, just drilled differently) but it does mess up the "catalog correctness" that is, for many folks, a primary yardstick of value.

Posted on 6 years ago
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SAVE YOUR SOUL FROM ETERNAL DAMNATION!... Keep the cool vintage kit and pretend like the thought of "going electronic" never entered your mind!

Stop stringing and tuning your instrument, make music now.
-fortune cookie

Vintage Drums:
1970ish Ludwig Standard Avocado Strata downbeat
1970ish Star Acrylic 22,12,13,16
1950’s Gretsch tympani 26.5
19?? Sonor roto-tympani 13x12
70’s Ludwig Standard alum 14x5 snare
90’s Arbiter Adv. Tuning 12x5 snare
90’s Ludwig blackrolite 14x5 snare

Modern Drums:
Erie Drums 1-ply sycamore shell kit 18,10,13
Erie 1-ply maple 14x5 snare
Tama S.L.P. Acrylic 14x6.5 snare
Posted on 6 years ago
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From Mr.Toast

SAVE YOUR SOUL FROM ETERNAL DAMNATION!... Keep the cool vintage kit and pretend like the thought of "going electronic" never entered your mind!

And for the love of God, don't go vintage electronic.

Posted on 6 years ago
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From Mr.Toast

SAVE YOUR SOUL FROM ETERNAL DAMNATION!... Keep the cool vintage kit and pretend like the thought of "going electronic" never entered your mind!

Haha...funny

Keep fixing them up...
Posted on 6 years ago
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From Mr.Toast

SAVE YOUR SOUL FROM ETERNAL DAMNATION!... Keep the cool vintage kit and pretend like the thought of "going electronic" never entered your mind!

Just picture me standing behind Mr. Toast holding a shotgun as he says that.

My work here is done....

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 6 years ago
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From Mr.Toast

SAVE YOUR SOUL FROM ETERNAL DAMNATION!... Keep the cool vintage kit and pretend like the thought of "going electronic" never entered your mind!

That's funny, I keep rethinking. Reasons for selling and going electronic are I haven't played a gig in 35+ years and when I play in the basement my dogs and wife don't like the noise.

Got some great feedback about what this set is but I'm now more confused than ever what it is.

Snare: pre-serial number Kestone badge (1960-63) not WFL Kestone badge. WFL stainer, 5 1/2" x 14" shell. I think it is the 1963 blue snare I show, any other ideas?

22" Base: pre-serial Kestone badge (1960-63) but the feet don't match anything sets I see online for those years. The feet are straight posts, what set used those?

16" floor tom: 5492 Kestone badge (1964)

13" Tom: 80889 Kestone badge (1964) Club Date tom

Hi Hat: WFL Speed King. Any idea what this is from?

So does it look like the original set was a base, snare, maybe Hi Hat, followed by a floor tom and then a Club Date 13" Tom.

Thanks to all for the help

Jim

Posted on 6 years ago
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> my dogs and wife don't like the noise.

Get some cats, lose the wife, find a hot girlfriend who 'gets you' and... play on brother, play on!

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 6 years ago
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