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help with notation

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Hello, folks.

I hope that everyone here and your families are o.k.

I'm doing some practice with exercises from Joe Morello's "Rudimental Jazz" book. I have poor knowledge of notation and have some troubles.

One example is in pages 31 (exercise 2) and 32 (exercise 3).

Are this dotted notes? I thought the dot is always placed next to the "head" of the note, like in some other exercises in this book (example the swing groove patern)

If so, how in the hell would you play dotted triplets?

Great book, by the way. Highly recomended.

Thanks in advance, Mor.

Posted on 4 years ago
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I had the good fortune to see a Joe Morello clinic when I was in high school and have not looked at his books in years but I think I can help with your question. The dots above the notes are indications of the start of the sticking patterns. The first one looks to me to be combinations of ruffs and drags and the second one is a RRL pattern preceding paradiddle sticking. I guess you can confirm that by the text above the examples. He should have put in a key to explain it. I have not seen this before (or just don't remember it) but I like it better than the brackets that I have seen in several books. Have you ever seen any Swiss (Dr. Berger) single line notation where the right hand is written above the line and the left below? It is also used in modern Scottish pipe band drumming. It blows you mind at first but is way easier to figure out than reading a rhythm and all the little R and L designations. Hope this helps, I could be completely wrong. Best of luck with your practice. I am going through jazz drum set books but do have Morello's set books and his Master Studies in the queue. By the way, dotted triplets are possible but really rare and always confuse the heck out of the reader. They are not particularly useful in my mind.

Posted on 4 years ago
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From Pedal_Pusher

...The dots above the notes are indications of the start of the sticking patterns. The first one looks to me to be combinations of ruffs and drags and the second one is a RRL pattern preceding paradiddle sticking. I guess you can confirm that by the text above the examples. He should have put in a key to explain it.

P. Pusher, I think you're right. The text above the two examples says "Double Drag (N.A.R.D. rudiment #10)".

Yes, he, or the editor, should explain it in some way. At the begining of the book are some very few general explanations and it took me a long time to realise that R.S. means rim shot, something obvious for an English speaker (I'm not).

Thanks a lot.

Posted on 4 years ago
#3
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No problem, glad to help solve the mystery. The Morello books were written when the rudiment list was shorter (26) and you can do a Google search on the National Association of Rudimental Drumming or maybe find a list in some of the drum books from that time period to help out. Mr. Morello studied with George Lawrence Stone and I assume they got very creative with applying rudimental sticking patterns to drum set and making the stickings fit non-traditional rudimental rhythm patterns. I can also recommend Charley Wilcoxin's books from the same time period and earlier. He actually has drum set solos mixed in with rudimental solos and usually is very careful to indicate the rudiments he is using by little abbreviations printed along with the music.

Posted on 4 years ago
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I did some Google search about N.A.R.D. a couple months ago and downloaded the 26 list. I'll take a look at Charley Wilcoxin's books. Thanks again. Please take care.

Mor.

Posted on 4 years ago
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