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Cool. The obvious eluded me.
If you look veryyyyyy carefully at the pix, you can barely see the "drop hoop" of a Dyna...:D
Those are USA made Rogers Drums.I can tell by the badge shape, and now you have supplied numbers. The set is 24, 13, 14, 18. Those drums are from the late 1976/into 1977 year. The 12, and 15 are add on drums, manufactured aprox. 1980/81.
the 12 and 15 are probably XP8 maple shells most likely i would think.
1980-81 would most definitely be XP8.
XP-8 was the 8 ply maple shells produced by Rogers later, around 1980. They are maple interiors and sound great. With all the drums there I think you have a very good deal. The ply separation on the wrap is normal. In fact Rogers not only had this happening but also they sometimes would have bass hoops that delaminate and start to fall apart. Sadly the quality was starting to wane, but ironically the xp-8 shells came in and some say they're better than the previous shells with re-rings. The 24" bass drum can sound excellent, especially with Funk.
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XP-8 was the 8 ply maple shells produced by Rogers later, around 1980. They are maple interiors and sound great. With all the drums there I think you have a very good deal. The ply separation on the wrap is normal. In fact Rogers not only had this happening but also they sometimes would have bass hoops that delaminate and start to fall apart. Sadly the quality was starting to wane, but ironically the xp-8 shells came in and some say they're better than the previous shells with re-rings. The 24" bass drum can sound excellent, especially with Funk. [IMG]http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w150/musicbybj/buddy.jpg[/IMG]
Well, I just went 'round the innerwebs and looked over the kit in the picture. That, my friends, is a COMPLETE with all "swanleg" Stagemaster hardware, Star custom painted, concert tom kit. Not a Rogers drum in sight. (Just my observation, I did go to independent sites to investigate on my own)
This is only an observation of the kit in the photo on the album cover my friends, not an indictment on anyone or anything remotely related to the topic at hand....please don't shoot me, i'se juss da messenger.
In this video, Miles IS playing a set of Rogers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1nR3zJ7mP4&feature=player_embedded#at=99
Respectfully, I disagree.
Swivo Matic double tom post with faucet tensioners clearly visible.
Rogers Beavertail lugs
Rogers Swivomatic Floor tom mounts and legs.
Rogers Swivomatic Cymbal Stands
Rogers Swivomatic tensioners on the bass drum Rogers spurs.
And from a story which contained interview excerpts, I found............... http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/feedbackfile/archives/2008/03/02/rip-drummersinger-buddy-miles/
Tell us about that groovy-looking drum kit on the cover of Them Changes.Buddy Miles: That’s a pre-CBS Rogers drum kit. Five-piece. I think I was one of the first in pop music to design drum kits like that.
Definitely ROGERS.
Now as for Rogers hoops delaminating.....
Never had an issue. Generally any hoop that is exposed to moisture and abuse, or any shell for that matter, can delaminate. Ive seen broken hoops, warped hoops, scratched up hoops, paint worn off the hoops, and even delamination of hoops, but none of that as a result of normal use.
XP8 Drums were introduced in 1979. Eight ply all maple shell. North American Maple.
The seam seperation is something easily fixed with the right glue. Those Big R era wraps were thick. The black, white, butcher block, koa, new mahogany, and other cortex type wraps were less prone to seam seperation. And it took several years for this to happen on the metallic wraps.
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