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Gretsch re-wrap problem. Help!!!

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I've just started the re-wrapping on a Gretsch Stop Sign kit. I'm a complete rookie and have thrown myself in at the deep end wth this.

The wrap I am using is Delmar ginger glass glitter (its beautiful!). I have just completed the floor tom with the bass and then the other tom still to do. The adhesive seemed to have done the trick and then I noticed the edges. At certain points around the drum the wrap doesn't appear to have completely stuck.

My question is, is this a major issue or will it be ok? I am constantly over thinking everything I do with he kit to make sure it is perfect, this coupled with he fact I've never done it before means I have a million questions.

Posted on 8 years ago
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the wrap not being stuck down may not be a real problem? but if the wrap is stuck down on both sides were the wrap is not glued down, and is bulging out, you may have a problem with heads not fitting properly, worse if you have more than one spot not glued down.

Posted on 8 years ago
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Are you using 3m contact cement or the high bond tape?

www.macdrums.com
Posted on 8 years ago
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From DMorris

I've just started the re-wrapping on a Gretsch Stop Sign kit. I'm a complete rookie and have thrown myself in at the deep end wth this.The wrap I am using is Delmar ginger glass glitter (its beautiful!). I have just completed the floor tom with the bass and then the other tom still to do. The adhesive seemed to have done the trick and then I noticed the edges. At certain points around the drum the wrap doesn't appear to have completely stuck.My question is, is this a major issue or will it be ok? I am constantly over thinking everything I do with he kit to make sure it is perfect, this coupled with he fact I've never done it before means I have a million questions.

A bit more information would be helpful to determine if it is a problem or not. At the points where it seems to not have stuck, is there space between the shell and the wrap? If so, how much space?

What type of adhesive are you using?

Either way, if the heads go on over the wrap without friction any problems that may remain are solvable.

http://compactdrums.com/

http://walopus.com/
Posted on 8 years ago
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Hi and thanks for responding.

I am not using 3m adhesive, I struggled to get hold of this so I am using Evostick Impact contact adhesive.

The wrap is stuck to the shell and there is no real bulging on the wrap or shell. The main bulk (about 90%) of the shell has been glued and is stuck.

Where the wrap has not stuck to the shell there is a gap of about 1-2mm, its tiny and you only notice it if you press it in and you can see it move slightly. This is not all the way around the shell but at certain points close to the bearing edge although I have left a gap between the bearing edge and the edge of the shell.

Posted on 8 years ago
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From DMorris

Hi and thanks for responding.I am not using 3m adhesive, I struggled to get hold of this so I am using Evostick Impact contact adhesive.The wrap is stuck to the shell and there is no real bulging on the wrap or shell. The main bulk (about 90%) of the shell has been glued and is stuck.Where the wrap has not stuck to the shell there is a gap of about 1-2mm, its tiny and you only notice it if you press it in and you can see it move slightly. This is not all the way around the shell but at certain points close to the bearing edge although I have left a gap between the bearing edge and the edge of the shell.

As long as the head completely clears the wrap I don't think you have anything you worry about then.

http://compactdrums.com/

http://walopus.com/
Posted on 8 years ago
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I agree with Compact.

I've noticed that some older, larger floor tom shells can become slightly barrel-shaped over time.

If you did wanted to try to glue it- you could use a syringe to apply the glue after taping-off the exposed wood and the exposed wrap. You could apply pressure on the glued wrap using bungee cords (with the metal hooks wrapped in a cloth or paper towel, or bar clamp each section being glued.

Posted on 8 years ago
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Brilliant thank you. I am just waiting for heads to arrive but just wondered if there might be other issues. I'll let you know how it goes. It is good to know there is always advice about when its needed.

Posted on 8 years ago
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Glass wrap is just a PITA to work with. Your hands must be in shreds after working with that crapolla. It's like concrete!

If it was a conventional wrap you could cut back the wrap from the bearing edge up to 1/2" and you could get rid of that funky edge. You can't do that with glass wrap. You need a special cutting tool for that stuff. As long as the heads fit, you should be good to go. I did one kit in green glass wrap. Never again.

John

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Posted on 8 years ago
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Hey, Check page six of my WFL thread... I know you are using glass, and not standard sparkle, but this might help you a bit... Hope this link works..

http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=35002&page=6

I have wrapped quite a few glass glitter drums as well.. Ask a question if you want..

Thanks, Ryan

Posted on 8 years ago
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