Drummer of The Cure doesn't...

I played for one guitar player for a while and he insisted that I never play a ride cymbal. Played with a different guitar player and he had a fit if I tried to use the hihat. Then another guitar player insisted I only use a ride cymbal with rivets. The next band insisted I not use rivets! These different bands all played rock and roll! I don't think there is a guitar player alive that doesn't think they need to teach the drummer how to play.

Please define Ride cymbal.

I know there are cymbals around 19"-24" that have that name printed on them. Arn't they just cymbals?

It's possible for a rock drummer to surround his kit with so called "Ride" cymbals and yet do no "Riding". Therefore do you pertain that he doesn't have any "Ride" cymbals?

John Stanier just plays hats and a crash (mounted about 2m up in the air) with Battles.

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That would have drove me nuts. Laughing H

Good question!

I have a hard time identifying cymbals with no writing on them. I pretty much go with my ears, if it sounds like a good cymbal to ride on then I use it, if it makes a good crash sound then its a crash. But I find my self riding on the bell of my so called crash cymbals all the time, I like the sound of that. I would say I use the hats about 60% and the ride cymbal 30% and the bell 10%, but its just a guess.

I try not to use the ride as a ride but most of the times the guitar players wants the damned thing there. I think using the hihat with a little swing here and there (close,open,semi open) it gets the thing heavier and funkier. I love the way Vinny Appice use his ride but I just cannot do it, It sound like he never uses too many notes. A 16 notes pattern sound like 8 notes because he accents the first one and "ghost" the second one…Ive tried to get that thing for years but I just can't…And it sounds HEAVY…Charlie Watts another example of conscious riding: He never fry your ears with 16 notes… A little on the pang, then goes to the no name crash with a huge cut on it…moduling the notes, broken patterns…yes, sr: like a preparing the sauce…Yummy!

Maureen Tucker from The Velvet Underground. I seem to remember an interview where Lou Reed said that he hated the sound of cymbals.

Lars used the ride in at least half the songs on Kill 'Em All. I don't think the ride shows up so much on any other album.