I'm just getting in to the vintage world... so these are average vintage cymbals but may I ask how much they are worth?
The 20" is probably worth less than $100 assuming that you can wait long enough for somebody willing to buy one that heavy; which could be never.
The 18" $75 - 100
The 20" is probably worth less than $100 assuming that you can wait long enough for somebody willing to buy one that heavy; which could be never.
That's for sure. A 20" weighing 2825 grams is really HEAVY! Even the 22" s I have are all lighter than that. I'm only interested in 20's that are around 800-900 grams lighter than this one. It'll be a long wait.
Drumaholic,
Thanks for all the lessons! It's starting to sink in.
Yeah, obviously it's a heavy model. Why are the heavy ones so undesirable? I've got a newish Sabian 21" AA RBDR that I really enjoy which is about 400 grams heavier than the vintage Zildjian...
Personally, the heavier ones are undesirable because they are all ping and no swing...no nice undertones and not crashable. Oddly enough, I have a late 50s 22" A ride that is 2825g. It's not too pingy and is crashable, but I'd like to have one with a little more wash and crashability, which is why I generally play a modern 21" A Sweet Ride that has a good bit more wash and crashability. I play blues-rock, so I like some wash. I guess I would want a heavier ride if I were playing hard rock. So, it just depends on what kind of music you're playing I guess.
That's my opinion!
Lynn
Personally, the heavier ones are undesirable because they are all ping and no swing...no nice undertones and not crashable. Oddly enough, I have a late 50s 22" A ride that is 2825g. It's not too pingy and is crashable, but I'd like to have one with a little more wash and crashability, which is why I generally play a modern 21" A Sweet Ride that has a good bit more wash and crashability. I play blues-rock, so I like some wash. I guess I would want a heavier ride if I were playing hard rock. So, it just depends on what kind of music you're playing I guess.That's my opinion!Lynn
That makes sense. I'm still curious though. I totally understand that there are different models of cymbals that appeal to people playing different types of music. There are lots of people who play hard rock and metal who would use heavy cymbals. I'm guessing maybe that those aren't the types of drummers who would look for vintage cymbals though?
Drumaholic,Personally, the heavier ones are undesirable because they are all ping and no swing...no nice undertones and not crashable. Lynn
I agree 100%. Couldn't have said it better. But there are some types of music where a pingy, cutting cymbal might work fine. But I would never want to own such a cymbal.
I'm guessing maybe that those aren't the types of drummers who would look for vintage cymbals though?
I would think this is most likely the case for most, if not all, drummers playing that style of music.
I agree 100%. Couldn't have said it better. But there are some types of music where a pingy, cutting cymbal might work fine. But I would never want to own such a cymbal.
Well put. I used to play heavy rock music, and a 21" A Rock Ride was my ride of choice. It was very heavy and very pingy. I sold it several years ago because I had no use for it anymore. I had held it for a while because I thought I'd use it if I ever played hard rock again, but I realized I would rather use my Sweet Ride. It has plenty of ping to cut through (though a medium ride would probably be better suited) and plenty of crashability (for which a medium ride would not be better suited...too clangy).
There's another :2Cents: of mine on the subject.
Lynn
I would think this is most likely the case for most, if not all, drummers playing that style of music.Well put. I used to play heavy rock music, and a 21" A Rock Ride was my ride of choice. It was very heavy and very pingy. I sold it several years ago because I had no use for it anymore. I had held it for a while because I thought I'd use it if I ever played hard rock again, but I realized I would rather use my Sweet Ride. It has plenty of ping to cut through (though a medium ride would probably be better suited) and plenty of crashability (for which a medium ride would not be better suited...too clangy).There's another :2Cents: of mine on the subject.Lynn
This is an interesting conversation! Thanks all for your input. So basically what I'm gathering is that there just isn't a market for heavy vintage cymbals. The hard rockers and metalheads aren't interested in vintage and those who are interested in vintage cymbals want light ones.
