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Dating K Constantinople

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I just aquired cheaply a 15"(980g) K Constantinople also has an F about 1/2" to the right of the cymbal. Under Constantinople is the word "trademark". Has signature under the bell.

There is also inscribed in very nice detailed lettering(not a stamp) USQMC which i assume is early military designation.

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/sonorjedi/IMAG0399.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/sonorjedi/IMAG0401.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/sonorjedi/IMAG0402.jpg[/IMG]

Any idea of the time frame of this cymbal?

The down side as pics show, the bell is really cracked bad, not very usable but that's why i bought it. I plan on using a disc(cut from old cymbal) and JB weld and use it as a bottom hat which will work nice with my 700g pre-trans stamp A.

Next question is, do i use the disc on the bottom covering the very nice signature or go from the outside making it look a little odd?

Thanks for your help/opinion.

Gary

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Posted on 12 years ago
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A lot of the sound of a cymbal comes from the bell. It's obvious your bell is destroyed. I'd be surprised if a JB welded disc will be any improvement. Good luck anyway !

Posted on 12 years ago
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Here's a pic of the disc i made.

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/sonorjedi/IMAG0403.jpg[/IMG]

Tdennis, i'm sure the sound is going to be different that is why i matched it up with a top hat and they sound good together. I bought it as a project. I've had success with the disc/JB weld combo on rides with very little change to sound. The bell becomes muted but still playable. Strength of repair is very good. I think as a bottom hat it will be strong while still projecting nicely.

I'll post pics when i'm done.

Gary.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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I have an old 21" china that had this repair done to it. it works great. I will post a picture soon.

Posted on 12 years ago
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that would be 30's era i think. and thats a big i think. ive got one of these in 12" that ive been trying to find a matching top hat for.

mike

Posted on 12 years ago
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Well...GOOOOLLLLEEE!

Looks like Gomer Pyle got to it...

USMC and all

"Always make sure your front bottom BD lugs clear the ground!"
Posted on 12 years ago
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There is also inscribed in very nice detailed lettering(not a stamp) USQMC which i assume is early military designation

That stands for the United States Army Quartermaster Corps, and that's U.S. Army.

Posted on 12 years ago
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Here's a 592g, 12 7/8" I've used as both a top and bottom hi hat cymbal. Looks like a hole repair was done years ago as it is the same color brass as the cymbal.

Never play it the same way once.
Posted on 12 years ago
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i hav a 14 i use it for my hat bottom its so heavy with a60 a's light top still experimenting the sound is so aged

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Posted on 12 years ago
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From Drumaholic

That stands for the United States Army Quartermaster Corps, and that's U.S. Army.

Thanks for the info, this makes perfect sence, so is this considered an old stamp K?

Orangemi, i will have pics of my repair later. So far it's good and strong. Sounds good , i might use it for a top.

Thanks guys for the info, Gary.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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