Was down on Cape Cod last week and found the following at flea markets.

like new Sabian HHX Dave Weckl 14" Legacy hi hats...75.00

A Ludwig 10" cymbal old and heavy with a great sound. It looks like a Zildjian. Did they make cymbals for Ludwig at one time? The only i.d. on the cymbal is Ludwig on the top near the edge in the old scroll like on Ringo's Beatle b.d. There is a looped strap coming thru the hole and on the other side a metal washer where is printed, "Ludwig and Ludwig, Chicago, Ill.

The other find was a 13" chinese swish with chinese writing in black on the top. There is an old screw and wingnut thru the hole. The bell is dome shaped. It sounds nice, not trashy like a piece of junk. Any ideas what these two cymbals are?

i'll send pics when I get a chance.