Just a guess, CamberII

cool looking cymbal.

I am sure someone might be able to tell by the lathing.

Wayne

Thanks!! It doesn't sound like any Camber I've heard, but I've not heard that many. It is a medium or medium heavy weight, doesn't feel cheap.

I think it may be a Zildjian Planet Z. They did some wacky stamping patterns, and they are usually heavy.

It looks like it could be vintage Paiste, possibly Ludwig Standard made by Paiste, but i've never seen

that type of hammering holes on any Paiste..

Here is a picture of my Camber 2 just to compare hammering.

Wayne

Thanks everyone!! That ring of dots around the underside of the bell is actually raised. It feels like ALL the circles you see are raised, not stamped in, but I don't know how that could be.

I suspect the raised circles on the bottom are "print through" from the hammering done on the top. That's what I find on my Pasite Traditionals. I have found it is very hard to judge hammering like this from photos because sometimes what look like craters are actually bumps. Visual interpretation can be tricked by effects of lighting.

I can't say what your cymbal is but I can say that there are significant differences in hammering between the Camber example and your mystery cymbal. I've annotated these differences so I hope people will see what I'm on about. I've called the curves on yours "arcs" but you can also see me using the term "curved spokes" in my little essay on hammering terminology and examples:

http://black.net.nz/avedis/hammering.html

There is at least one lower level (B8 bronze I believe) line of cymbals from Zildjian which has fine or medium tonal groove lathing on the top and apparently no grooves on the bottom. The bell also has that one inch ring of no tonal grooves on the top as your mystery cymbal seems to. I'd say this hammering and lathing looks closer to yours than the Camber, although that doesn't make yours a Zildjian. In order to rule out other potential brands you need to examine them all at the same level of detail I'm talking about here.

Hope this helps.

I've had a quick look at a few of these on eBay and they have the same hammering and lathing patterns as seen on the unknown Zildjian I annotated. What I can't tell is if there ought to be a pressed in die stamp on the Planet Z cymbals. I've seen one example of a specific Planet Z stamp, but that tells me nothing about whether or not they all had them during all the years they were produced.

Perhaps the next step is to use a magnifying glass and have a really close look for any hint of a stamp which resembles the one I've attached. Sometimes trademark stamps can be pressed in very lightly and be nearly invisible. Good hunting.

Very informative as usual Zenstat.

Wayne