There the lowest line that Sabian makes,,...

I used mine to chop lettuce...then i throw them around like a Frisbee....

Then you must use ZBT's to scoop up dog poop...It would be funny to see a list of the worlds worst cymbals here on the VDF. My son has a ZXT crash that is so bad I could not hit it. It was actually painful to listen to...

I've seen so many variations of these cymbals. Some are pretty good, not so good and yuck. I'm still learning about these myself. Made in Canada and also Made in Germany or stamped West Germany.

Is there a series number stamped on it?

Camber II

Camber III

Camber 200 series, 300 series

Camber Savage

Camber c-4000,

Camber c-6000 brass,

Camber c-8000 bronze, c-8000 gold

That is all that is imprinted on the cymbals except for the size and designation I/E 16" crash, 18" crash/ ride.

i have seen alot of Canadian Cambers that LOOKED great, but have not HEARD any that sound good. Proof is in the video.

The stamp shown is generally considered a 70's stamp. The hollow ink logo on the underside is also thought to be late 70's/early 80's. All the hollow ink cymbals that I've owned or played sounded great. Those look nice.

Learned something new today.. Didn't know that Camber was made by Sabian ;)

I owned Camber II's back when I was getting started about year 1980 back then they suck'd very badly. They were very very durable to abuse tho