ok paiste experts, i need your help in identifying a paiste china-heres what i can tell you: it's at least 22" in size( could be 24") its pre 1983, it has the large wuhan/2002 style handle/ bell ,it has very small dark block letters at the 12 'o clock position that says Paiste and the same style letters at the 3' o clock position that my research makes me think says " china" or "china type" and under that, probably the size. All of this is on what i call the top of the cymbal( the side where the handle/bell protrudes) The cymbal is dry with a short decay. What confuses me is that the 2002 black label china's had lettering at 12 and 6 o' clock, not 12 and 3- the 505 series had it at 12 and 3, plus the 505 series had green writing and the largest china in that series was a 20"and this thing is big. Help.