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Building from parts/kits and replicas... Worldmax shells

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Hey all...

I'm currently considering picking up a really cheap Acrolite shell for like $20 that's missing all it's hardware. If I do, I'll build it using Imperial lugs, custom finish, etc...

However, I was looking around online, and found the Worldmax Black Dawg brass shells for sale, pre-drilled for the lugs from drumfactorydirect.com. The 5"x14" shell is pre-drilled with a "Lugwig-correct" pattern--the hole spacing is the same as for an Acro or a Supra. The shell is around $120, but it is Black COB, which would be a nice shell to start with. (no, it's not seamless, but it's still a nice shell).

Provided that the bead around the shell is the same size/profile, Bowtie or Imperial lugs should bolt right on and look just right. Instant BB replica! :)

I'm just wondering if anyone's used the Worldmax shell as the basis for their own BB replica project.

Also, it would seem like an economical way to "upgrade" to a brass snare--just swap your hardware over and you're done! They offer it pre-drilled for either 8 or 10 lugs, so it's a pretty neat idea.

Thoughts???

Current gigging set:
Recent Ludwig Accent 13/16/18/26, (in Silver Sparkle), "updated" 70's Acrolite with cast batter hoop and Trick strainer/butt

Cymbals:
Zildjian K Custom Ride, Dream (Bliss and Contact) crashes and hats, and a Sabian Swish/China.

Other stuff:
60's Ludwig Champagne Sparkle "Traveler's Club Date", under construction. Click Here
70's Acrolite (under RE-construction)
Two 1960's mahogany 32" Ludwig bass drums with Imperial lugs.
Posted on 13 years ago
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From jonrpick

Hey all...I'm currently considering picking up a really cheap Acrolite shell for like $20 that's missing all it's hardware. If I do, I'll build it using Imperial lugs, custom finish, etc...However, I was looking around online, and found the Worldmax Black Dawg brass shells for sale, pre-drilled for the lugs from drumfactorydirect.com. The 5"x14" shell is pre-drilled with a "Lugwig-correct" pattern--the hole spacing is the same as for an Acro or a Supra. The shell is around $120, but it is Black COB, which would be a nice shell to start with. (no, it's not seamless, but it's still a nice shell).Provided that the bead around the shell is the same size/profile, Bowtie or Imperial lugs should bolt right on and look just right. Instant BB replica! :)I'm just wondering if anyone's used the Worldmax shell as the basis for their own BB replica project.Also, it would seem like an economical way to "upgrade" to a brass snare--just swap your hardware over and you're done! They offer it pre-drilled for either 8 or 10 lugs, so it's a pretty neat idea. Thoughts???

I've heard good things about those shells.....I've even considered a project like this myself using tube lugs, stick chopper hoops and a Leedy Broadway strainer and butt. Search Youtube for Blackdawg snares.....you should get a good representaion of how they sound that way....they use the Worldmax shells.

Posted on 13 years ago
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The only thing they're not drilled for are the strainer and butt end, and muffler (if you're going to use one--I wouldn't).

Still, seems like a pretty good deal to me. Like I said, it's a cheap way to "upgrade" to a brass drum.

I do really wish I could get one in plain brass though.

Current gigging set:
Recent Ludwig Accent 13/16/18/26, (in Silver Sparkle), "updated" 70's Acrolite with cast batter hoop and Trick strainer/butt

Cymbals:
Zildjian K Custom Ride, Dream (Bliss and Contact) crashes and hats, and a Sabian Swish/China.

Other stuff:
60's Ludwig Champagne Sparkle "Traveler's Club Date", under construction. Click Here
70's Acrolite (under RE-construction)
Two 1960's mahogany 32" Ludwig bass drums with Imperial lugs.
Posted on 13 years ago
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Sounds like a fun project !!

Kevin
Posted on 13 years ago
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Well...the only thing stopping me from doing it is the total cost. I would want to build it a certain way and would have to purchase all the parts to do it that way. (I don't have many spare Ludwig parts anymore) It works out slightly cheaper than buying a NEW Ludwig non-engraved Black Beauty....but not by much. I have seen one or two of the reissue Leedy Black Brass Broadway snares on Ebay from time to time and they are almost $400...cheaper than a BB Ludwig, but still not cheap. I figured it out once...it was gonna cost me close to $500 for all the parts. So...cheaper...maybe, if you already have all the parts but the shell.....

Posted on 13 years ago
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Lugs can be had in good shape for not *too* awfully much. I just Googled and found new Imperial snare lugs for $8.48 each, so $84.80 for all ten of them, screws included.

http://www.drumsonsale.com/ludwigimperialtensionlugp2230b-p-6427.html

The shell is $129, so that's a little over $200 total, and you're nearly there.

Tube lugs are a few bucks cheaper each, though... definitely something to consider.

I think it depends on how pimped out you want the drum to be too. If you cheap out on the strainer to start out, and just go with one of the standard P-85 knockoffs, you can get something really functional for a low cost. The good thing about starting with a P-85 knockoff is, once the holes are drilled, it's easily upgradeable to a P-86, or a Trick with an adapter plate like I did on my Acro (the adapter plate would be necessary regardless of the hole pattern, since it lifts the strainer up to clear the bead in the shell).

Everything's upgradeable, though! :)

If I were doing a full-on BB, I'd go with tube lugs, single flange hoops, and all of the hardware would be brass. I just love that look.

Current gigging set:
Recent Ludwig Accent 13/16/18/26, (in Silver Sparkle), "updated" 70's Acrolite with cast batter hoop and Trick strainer/butt

Cymbals:
Zildjian K Custom Ride, Dream (Bliss and Contact) crashes and hats, and a Sabian Swish/China.

Other stuff:
60's Ludwig Champagne Sparkle "Traveler's Club Date", under construction. Click Here
70's Acrolite (under RE-construction)
Two 1960's mahogany 32" Ludwig bass drums with Imperial lugs.
Posted on 13 years ago
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I built a World Max with supra hardware. Looks great, but does not really sound like a black beauty though. It does sound good, and to my ears, better than a stock supra. I call mine the "Black Bastard."

Posted on 13 years ago
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